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Title: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: M_ONeill on Sunday 28 March 21 22:05 BST (UK)
Hi all!

Looking for a little help reading a surname split across two lines of a catholic parish record in 1832.

My initial reading would be 'Benning-am', perhaps 'Benningham' with the 'h' missing. Thing is, I've seen this surname nowhere else in the local records, so I'm not sure I have it right.

Any thoughts and suggestions gratefully appreciated!
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 28 March 21 22:50 BST (UK)
I see Benningham too.
Carol
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 29 March 21 04:08 BST (UK)
I see Bennig-am, but when writing quickly it is common to not form all letters correctly. Benningham seems logical.  :)
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: shanreagh on Monday 29 March 21 05:32 BST (UK)
This is so interesting to me.  My people are from L/Derry and my 2 x gt grandmother has a maiden surname of Bamingham.   Catherine Bamingham/Birmingham etc married John Harris and had three children Linsey Harris, Frederick Harris and Catherine Harris later Ramage (from Shanreagh out of Limavady)

One of her CB Harris'  granddaughters (Linsey's daughter  is named Catherine Bamingham Harris born 1862 and another granddaughter, the daughter of Catherine Harris Ramage ( my Grandmother) is named Catherine Buchan or Buchanan Ramage.  On her daughter's wedding certificate it is Bannigan, crossed out then Banigan inserted (this was on the church copy I saw in 1996).

The name Bamingham in not found anywhere really and we have thought it might be Birmingham. Your Benningham might be Birmingham as well?    or our Bamingham might be Benningham.  This family did not come from Shanreagh but away a little as my grandmother recalled her older sister going to visit the Harris/Bamingham family.

More later! Just going out
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: Ian Nelson on Monday 29 March 21 08:35 BST (UK)
Although the capital 'B' looks similar to the other two on the page I wouldn't rule out Finnegan as it could be a fancy 'F'.
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: shanreagh on Monday 29 March 21 10:35 BST (UK)
There were Donnellys and Sandfords in Griffiths for Ballyneneagh.
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: Bookbox on Monday 29 March 21 11:31 BST (UK)
Looks to me like Bening-am, which nobody seems to have suggested yet. Obviously you would need to include variant spellings in any search.
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: Sandblown on Monday 29 March 21 13:49 BST (UK)
Seems unsual to split a Surname, like that. If it is Beningam, I would have thought the last two letters could still fit in the margin, after Bening.
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: Trishanne on Monday 29 March 21 17:21 BST (UK)
Is this any help. I think the large dot is an ink blot or similar, if you look at Maria the 'i' is dotted to the side. Are there some more letters after the main inscription or is it just a dirty mark?
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: Fogmoose on Tuesday 30 March 21 22:29 BST (UK)
I agree Benigham or Beningham. That does look like an ink blot over the second letter, not a dot over an i.
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: M_ONeill on Tuesday 30 March 21 23:53 BST (UK)
Hi all! Apologies for the delayed response - thank you all for your input.  :)

It seems like the general consensus is that it is indeed most likely some form of Benningham. A very unusual name for that time and place, I haven't seen it in local records before.

However, I suppose it's entirely possible that it went extinct locally. Someone else pointed out the Sandfords and the Donnelly's. I descend from the latter, my 4x great grandfather being a Patrick Donnelly of Ballynenagh. The Sandfords seemed to be very close to them, sharing some land in the townland for many, many years. Yet the Sandford name seems to have become extinct by the time my living relatives were born in the area in the 40s and 50s. I suppose the same may have happened to Benningham at an earlier point.
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: M_ONeill on Sunday 04 April 21 16:15 BST (UK)
So I've been doing some more local searching and discovered that there is in fact a reasonably-common 'Bennigan' surname in the area.

This sounds/looks a lot more like a name of gaelic origin, but I've not come across it before. Anyone know anthing about it? Possibly a corruption of 'Bannigan' or 'Brannigan'?
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: Fogmoose on Sunday 04 April 21 16:34 BST (UK)
You may want to consult https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015011274175&view=1up&seq=500

Much of it will apply for Scots/Irish surnames as well I would think.
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: M_ONeill on Sunday 04 April 21 17:18 BST (UK)
Oh thank you for that, Fogmoose! This looks like a very useful resource.  :)
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 07 September 21 01:03 BST (UK)
So I've been doing some more local searching and discovered that there is in fact a reasonably-common 'Bennigan' surname in the area.

This sounds/looks a lot more like a name of gaelic origin, but I've not come across it before. Anyone know anthing about it? Possibly a corruption of 'Bannigan' or 'Brannigan'?

As this is one of the name versions that I am searching for I would be intereste to know where it is you have found this name please?  ie where is the 'local' searching. 

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: M_ONeill on Friday 24 September 21 00:04 BST (UK)
As this is one of the name versions that I am searching for I would be intereste to know where it is you have found this name please?  ie where is the 'local' searching. 

Thanks :)

Hi Shanreagh, I've been using the Irish Catholic Parish record searches on FindMyPast. How good the coverage is depends on precisely which parish you're looking at, but often the parish records are pretty good (if sometimes tricky to read!). It requires a paid subscription, but I've found it well worth it.
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: shanreagh on Saturday 25 September 21 13:04 BST (UK)
As this is one of the name versions that I am searching for I would be intereste to know where it is you have found this name please?  ie where is the 'local' searching. 

Thanks :)

Hi Shanreagh, I've been using the Irish Catholic Parish record searches on FindMyPast. How good the coverage is depends on precisely which parish you're looking at, but often the parish records are pretty good (if sometimes tricky to read!). It requires a paid subscription, but I've found it well worth it.

Sorry I meant hat parts of Ireland (ie location)  have you been finding this name Bannigan, Benagin etc  etc.  I think I have seen you researching in the north...perhaps Londonderry? in times past. Is it there that ou found these Bennegin names?     
Title: Re: Help with a surname (Benningham?)
Post by: M_ONeill on Sunday 26 September 21 18:09 BST (UK)
Ah, sorry, I get you now. Yes, these particular Benningham names come from the parish records of Ardtrea and Desertlin, a parish on the north western shores of Lough Neagh, between Magherafelt and Ballinderry.

Although I will caution that it doesn't seem to be a particularly common name in the area. That's one of the reasons it first jumped out at me!