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Title: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: trystan on Monday 29 March 21 14:15 BST (UK)
Hi folks,

There are mixed messages in the news as to whether or not people are to "Stay Local" now in the new rules that have come into force today in England.

I've gone to https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus and then gone to "What you can and cannot do", but I can't for the life of me work out if we are now required to stay local or not.

Any ideas?
Trystan

Trystan
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 29 March 21 14:21 BST (UK)
Possibly "minimise travel" but who knows  :-\ :-\ :-\  And it will all change again, I'm sure!  :o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 29 March 21 15:39 BST (UK)
I am going to watch the government briefing later today (presumably 5pm?) and take news from there.  Deliberately not looking at any speculation before that. 

My local council sends regular covid updates so would suggest anyone who has the option to sign up for those as well.  They give local statistics as well as spelling out the latest instructions.
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: Pheno on Monday 29 March 21 15:42 BST (UK)
I understood that 'stay at home' was enshrined in law but 'stay local' is not, it is only guidance so no actual contra-indicator not to travel but we are being advised to 'stay local'.

However, who defines 'local'.

Pheno
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: trystan on Monday 29 March 21 15:46 BST (UK)
Pheno,

There is no mention of "Stay Local" (for England) from what I've read on the government website, as far as I can see.

Trystan
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: Pheno on Monday 29 March 21 15:49 BST (UK)
I believe that is what we are being asked to do, but as I said it is not a legal requirement which is probably why it is not mentioned on government website.

Pheno
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: trystan on Monday 29 March 21 15:52 BST (UK)
Wouldn't we be asked to do it on the government website if they wanted us to do it?

We have been abiding by the Covid rules and regulations, and using the gov.uk website solely as the source of what we can and cannot do.
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 29 March 21 15:54 BST (UK)
Can't remember who said it, or on what TV programme, but it was said that Government wanted everyone to stay local, but there was nothing stopping you traveling anywhere in England.

As usual - clear as mud! ;D ;D
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: trystan on Monday 29 March 21 16:06 BST (UK)
I think the media are making things up.  :)
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: Guy Etchells on Monday 29 March 21 16:24 BST (UK)
You can travel anywhere in England with no restrictions on distance, however:-

You should minimise travel where possible. This means you should:
avoid making unnecessary trips
combine trips where possible
You should not stay away from home overnight for a holiday.

In other words if you want to travel to the beach and it is 90 miles away that is acceptable as otherwise you cannot visit the beach, but you must return to your main home to sleep overnight.

The idea is you are not restricted to any particular limit but if it is possible to visit a closer destination that is not going to be overcrowded that would be better.
They are hoping the public will use common sense.
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: Caw1 on Monday 29 March 21 16:30 BST (UK)
Good luck with ‘the common sense’ idea!

Most of us know what we should and shouldn’t be doing but sadly there are always those who will stretch the guidance as far as possible...
Let’s hope everyone is sensible and therefore not ruining it for all those who have stuck to the guidelines....
Having both vaccinations at the moment doesn’t mean you can go and hug every friend, relative anytime soon....
We need to stick with it but I do wish the government would make it crystal clear.... perhaps they’re just relying on most people’s good sense...

Caroline
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: Roobarb on Monday 29 March 21 16:50 BST (UK)
Matt Hancock was interviewed today on This Morning, this was one of the questions put to him. He said :

"We’re saying that you should minimise travel, but if you want to travel to see friends and family then that is absolutely fine - no matter where they are in England.

"There’s different rules from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and international travel is difficult and in fact, going on holiday abroad is still not allowed."

He also said that next weekend he would be going home to Suffolk but only for the day as an overnight stay is not allowed.

So pretty much what Guy said.
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: candleflame on Monday 29 March 21 18:43 BST (UK)
We’ve been the furthest we’ve been since sometime last year today . We went to an Argos to collect a needed new child’s car seat and this was the nearest Argos that had it in stock. 8 miles there, 8 miles back. ( We’re in England) . Felt very strange driving so far from home, but at least what we did was legal and we couldn’t be fined. I’d love to go to the beach - about 10/12 miles away but today’s weather wasn’t great.
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: Roobarb on Monday 29 March 21 22:13 BST (UK)
Lovely forecast for tomorrow candleflame but the trouble with that is that everyone has the same idea when the sun shines! I stay away from the beach when the weather's at its best, particularly at weekends.  :)
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: trystan on Monday 29 March 21 23:29 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your replies.

We just want to do what is legal and right, to prevent the chain of events that could lead to people losing their lives. We have also taken the stance that just because we are allowed to do something, doesn't always mean it is a good idea to do it.

It will be such a great tonic to venture out from our little patch. On our daily lockdown walk, we are even recognising individual cows, and they are even giving us a little knowing look back.  ;D It's not such a bad thing though.

Trystan
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: candleflame on Tuesday 30 March 21 09:48 BST (UK)

It will be such a great tonic to venture out from our little patch. On our daily lockdown walk, we are even recognising individual cows, and they are even giving us a little knowing look back.  ;D It's not such a bad thing though.

Trystan

Have you started giving them names ? 😀
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: trystan on Tuesday 30 March 21 23:25 BST (UK)
One has a big white diamond shape on her head. Of course, her name has to be "Diamond Cheeser". Oh and the brown one, is called "Brown Cow".

 :)

Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 31 March 21 07:41 BST (UK)
One has a big white diamond shape on her head. Of course, her name has to be "Diamond Cheeser". Oh and the brown one, is called "Brown Cow".

 :)

Sorry for this - I was always told that "brown" cows were RED.  But, as I was brought up in Cheshire, it might very well be a location thing.  :) :-X
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Wednesday 31 March 21 08:32 BST (UK)
One has a big white diamond shape on her head. Of course, her name has to be "Diamond Cheeser". Oh and the brown one, is called "Brown Cow".

 :)

Sorry for this - I was always told that "brown" cows were RED.  But, as I was brought up in Cheshire, it might very well be a location thing.  :) :-X
In the same way, white horses are grey, and some dogs are blue.
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: suey on Wednesday 31 March 21 11:36 BST (UK)
One has a big white diamond shape on her head. Of course, her name has to be "Diamond Cheeser". Oh and the brown one, is called "Brown Cow".

 :)


Sorry for this - I was always told that "brown" cows were RED.  But, as I was brought up in Cheshire, it might very well be a location thing.  :) :-X

They can’t all be red...Remember rounding you vowels ?...How now brown cow  ;D ;D ;D

On a more serious note, I’m sure I heard something this morning about it being okay for people to be in self catering accommodation over Easter.  Anyone else hear that.?
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: groom on Wednesday 31 March 21 13:10 BST (UK)
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On a more serious note, I’m sure I heard something this morning about it being okay for people to be in self catering accommodation over Easter.  Anyone else hear that.?

In Wales I believe, but only if you live in Wales, you can't go from England into Wales. Self catering accommodation in England re-opens 12th April. At the earliest, holiday accommodation will re-open in Scotland on 26 April

 https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/03/when-can-i-go-on-holiday-in-the-uk-is-it-safe-to-book/ - Which?
 
Title: Re: New rules for England, 29th March - do we not have to stay local?
Post by: suey on Wednesday 31 March 21 17:38 BST (UK)
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On a more serious note, I’m sure I heard something this morning about it being okay for people to be in self catering accommodation over Easter.  Anyone else hear that.?

In Wales I believe, but only if you live in Wales, you can't go from England into Wales. Self catering accommodation in England re-opens 12th April. At the earliest, holiday accommodation will re-open in Scotland on 26 April

 https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/03/when-can-i-go-on-holiday-in-the-uk-is-it-safe-to-book/ - Which?

I knew this was the case in Wales, I must have misheard/misunderstood what was being said today regards England, they had been discussing Cornwall previously.