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Title: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Jang on Thursday 01 April 21 07:52 BST (UK)
According to both Ancestry and FamilySearch there are two entries for a Patrick Keating who died in 1923 in Limerick, aged 78, one in the Sept Qtr and another in the Dec Qtr. But I can't find either of the corresponding entries on IrishGeneology.ie What does come up is the death of a Patrick Keating in Tipperary on 10 January 1923, aged 78. Can anyone help?

Jan
Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 01 April 21 08:51 BST (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf)
Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 01 April 21 09:05 BST (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf)

That man is 80 and the SRD is Newcastle West.

Here are the two FS links-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTN2-QPG
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRLG-1QM

Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 01 April 21 09:12 BST (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf)

That man is 80 and the SRD is Newcastle West.

Here are the two FS links-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTN2-QPG
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRLG-1QM

And just where is Newcastle West? In Limerick.

The OP wants a Patrick Keating death in Limerick in 1923.

The one I provided  is one such.
Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 01 April 21 09:15 BST (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf)

That man is 80 and the SRD is Newcastle West.

Here are the two FS links-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTN2-QPG
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRLG-1QM

And just where is Newcastle West? In Limerick.

The OP wants a Patrick Keating death in Limerick in 1923.

The one I provided  is one such.

You have provided a death in the county of Limerick, not in Limerick SRD.

Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Jang on Thursday 01 April 21 09:18 BST (UK)
Thanks Wexflyer, sorry I should have said Limerick registration district. It seems the Ancestry records are based on the FamilySearch ones which both say aged 78. It's these records I can't locate.

Thanks Kiltaglassan for providing the links to the FamilySearch items.
Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 01 April 21 09:19 BST (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05047/4381732.pdf)

That man is 80 and the SRD is Newcastle West.

Here are the two FS links-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTN2-QPG
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRLG-1QM

And just where is Newcastle West? In Limerick.

The OP wants a Patrick Keating death in Limerick in 1923.

The one I provided  is one such.

You have provided a death in the county of Limerick, not in Limerick SRD.

Did the OP say "Limerick SRD", or "Limerick"?
Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 01 April 21 09:41 BST (UK)
Check out the Patrick Keating, age 78, died "1920", Limerick RSD. The year of death does not fit the register date.
Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 01 April 21 09:59 BST (UK)
Check out the Patrick Keating, age 78, died "1920", Limerick RSD. The year of death does not fit the register date.

Good find, hanes teulu  ;D

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05042/4379956.pdf

The SRD Limerick says year 1923 but he died on 30th December 1920 and only registered by his daughter Catherine on 1st October 1923.

Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Jang on Thursday 01 April 21 10:25 BST (UK)
Wow, great detective work, hanes teulu, thanks so much.

I wonder why it took so long for the death to be registered?
Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 01 April 21 10:30 BST (UK)

Patrick Keating died in the townland of Gleno.....on the Limerick-Tipperary border.
https://www.townlands.ie/limerick/owneybeg/abington/glenstal/gleno/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Glenstal/Gleno_Knocklatteragh/633562/

Title: Re: Can't find civil death record - Patrick Keating 1923 Limerick
Post by: Jang on Friday 02 April 21 08:16 BST (UK)
Thanks Kiltaglassan, it turns out he's not the Patrick Keating I'm looking for - too old if he died in 1920. The one I'm looking for was baptised on 2 April 1845 in Fedamore, the son of Jeffrey Keating and Catherine Lenihan. I haven't been able to find any other mention of him, or his parents, after this date.

But it was useful to know that the date in the civil registration index is a registration date and not necessarily the death date :-)