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Independent Islands => Isle of Man => Topic started by: Chucky_60 on Sunday 04 April 21 05:53 BST (UK)
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Afternnon all,
I was hoping that someone could help with information on my 3 x Great grandfather William Northey (Abt.1828 - Abt.1891) the 1851 census states that he was born on the IOM but I have not been unable to find any other proof.
He married Elizabeth Watterson on the 7 Nov 1850, he was a carpenter that went onto be a ships carpenter.
Again the 1851 census shows him living at what could be 48 Glen Chass which is only a few mins from Port Saint Mary.
I have found an number of news clippings and other info about his family, but no luck with birth details or his parents. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Chucky
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In 1851 his surname looks more like Norway?
Could this be his baptism in 1827 - the illegimate son of Martin Norway and Cath Kiggin? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9396-CY2J-1?i=31&cc=1784428
Kay
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On his marriage cert his surname looks more like Nordy and father listed as John Nordy miner https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6149-NDY?i=15&cc=1784428
Kay
Added - so illegitimate bapt I posted previously looks unlikely :-\
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www.iMuseum.im also shows Nordy.
(People search; Advanced)
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Looking at Burials, I can find 5 for Northey (1885-1985) and none for Nordy.
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I can see any Northey's, Nordy's or simliar on the 1841 census for the IoM :-\
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Thank you,
As I'm sure you know it gets frustrating when you come across name variations and poor handwriting. I also have seen a number of variations, including Nordy and Norway.
Perhaps we could try a different approach my 2x great grandfather also William Northey was baptised on the 27 Feb 1853 in Rushen. His parents are listed as William Northey & Elizabeth Watterson. These numbers appear on the citation 106194, 106742, 106743. I'm not sure what they mean?
The family appears on the 1861 IOM census.
Is it possible that William senior was actually born in outside of the IOM and the 1851 is wrong?
Cheers, Chucky
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I must admit Chucky that I also thought of the possibility that William Snr wasn't born on the IoM but the 1861/71 and 81 census years also list his birth place as Rushen, Isle of Man
Going back to my original suggestion re a baptism in the parish with father Martin Norway and mother Cath Kiggen - I did find a marriage in 1838 at Rushen of a Cath Keggin to John Collister https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZ1C-J82
This looks like the couple in 1841 living at Corvalla, Rushen, Isle of Man with her parents and son William
Edward Keggeen Male 60 Isle of Man
Jane Keggeen 63 Isle of Man
John Collister 35 Isle of Man
Catherine Collister 35 Isle of Man
Wm Keggeen 14 Isle of Man
In 1861 William Northey and family were also living in Corvalla, Rushen next door but one from Jane Keggeen and her daughter Catherine Collister. Maybe the father John on William Snr's marriage cert was incorrect and William's stepfather was John?? :-\
Kay
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Thanks Kay,
Out of the thousands of ancestors I've found the Northey and IOM branch are very special to me. I was planning on being there last year but we all know what happened :'( last year.
I'll take a look at your suggestion and see where it leads.
Chucky
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The only grandparent I knew said that she was from the Isle of Man and she started my interest in family history. However it turned out that she was born in Liverpool and her father came from the Isle of Man
Fingers crossed Kay
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Morning Kay
William Northey & Elizabeth Watterson had 9 children all I whom I have found birth and baptism records for. Yes the surname was spell differently on many of them but they all add up. Of cause Elizabeth's family appears to be rather large on the Isle (there are Watterson's everywhere) I could have the wrong one.
As William was living and working with his father in-law Thomas Watterson on the 1851 census I'm more inclined to think that he went to the Isle for work fell in love with his bosses daughter and lived happy ever after. lol :) I just need to find where he came from.
I still have a cousin alive (88) who speaks very fondly of the Isle and I have found a newspaper clipping from 1959 when his mums visited.
I will keep digging.
Chucky
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FamilySearch is showing, for 1851 census, some William's and his father born mainly in Devon or Cornwall.
Surnames shown as Northey, Northy and Northway ;)
Watterson is a very common surname on the Isle of Man :D