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Title: John William Pateman
Post by: magslote on Monday 05 April 21 06:38 BST (UK)
please need confirmation on above, he died 1936 from saving a persons
life on the river Nene, in Peterborough, was awarded by the Humane Society, its before 1939 so no date of birth, again would like to know who his parents were, there are a few contenders.?
but have no proof.thankyou.margaret.
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 April 21 07:25 BST (UK)
Death Jun qtr 1936 
Pateman    John W    AGE 32    Peterbro    3b   236

Only 2 births listed on GRO around the time
Birth Mar qtr 1900
Pateman    John William        Peterbro'    3b   272    

Birth Mar qtr 1904
PATEMAN    John William        Peterbro'    3b   252
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: Brentor boy on Monday 05 April 21 08:12 BST (UK)
Death Jun qtr 1936 
Pateman    John W    AGE 32    Peterbro    3b   236

Only 2 births listed on GRO around the time
Birth Mar qtr 1900
Pateman    John William        Peterbro'    3b   272    

Birth Mar qtr 1904
PATEMAN    John William        Peterbro'    3b   252

JWP (1900) appears to have died in Sleaford in 1958

I cannot find JWP (1904) on DRO Index or in 1911.

JWP  performed his life saving action in 1934. Report of his funeral in Peterborough Standard,  19 June 1936 quotes date as 6 December 1934.
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: magslote on Monday 05 April 21 08:27 BST (UK)
thankyou both so much, you can see my problem.thanks.Margaret.
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 April 21 11:19 BST (UK)
Mourners at funeral Mrs S E Goode, mother  ???  I originally had SA which was wrong, sorry

Looks as though she married after he was born

Marriages Mar qtr 1904   
Goode    William James       
Pateman    Sarah Elizabeth       
Peterbro'    3b   330

Peterborough Standard 19 June 1936 - Long list of mourners
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 April 21 11:26 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 05 April 21 11:38 BST (UK)
Was he also  registered as Goode?

GOODE, JOHN  WILLIAM      GOODE     
GRO Ref: 1904  M Qrter PETERBOROUGH  Vol 03B  Page 252
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 April 21 11:42 BST (UK)
I wondered about that birth registration

Probate in 1948 for Sarah Elizabeth Goode (wife of William James Goode) to Elsie Florence Taylor (wife of John William Taylor) - she was at The Green Werrington age was 64 so possibly wrong family
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: magslote on Monday 05 April 21 11:59 BST (UK)
thankyou ladies so much, for your time, and patience.Margaret.
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 05 April 21 12:12 BST (UK)
An Ernest Goode was also registered with mothers maiden name Pateman

GOODE, ERNEST        PATEMAN     
GRO Ref: 1905  S Quarter PETERBOROUGH  Volume 03B  Page 231

I wonder if this was him with father William J in 1911?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1Y-64V
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 April 21 12:15 BST (UK)
There was a wreath To dear Billie from his loving mother & Sid.  That matches a record in 1939 for Sarah E Goode c1886 & Sydney  in Peterborough  :)

Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 April 21 12:19 BST (UK)
An Ernest Goode was also registered with mothers maiden name Pateman

GOODE, ERNEST        PATEMAN     
GRO Ref: 1905  S Quarter PETERBOROUGH  Volume 03B  Page 231

I wonder if this was him with father William J in 1911?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1Y-64V

Another mourner was an aunt Mrs F Wade
Marriage Sep qtr 1900   

Pateman    Florence       
Wade    Human Samuel       
Peterbro'    3b   519

Florence and Samuel are on that census  :)
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: magslote on Monday 05 April 21 12:19 BST (UK)
Kaye and Rosie thankyou so much for your  persistance, and imfo.Margaret.
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 05 April 21 12:20 BST (UK)
William (John William) and mother Sarah in 1911?? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7V9-7WK

Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 April 21 12:28 BST (UK)
more mourners Mrs A White (grandmother),  Mrs M Hastings (cousin)

In memory of dear Daddy - from Doreen, Keith & Mammy

Clara, Uncle Will & Family
Ernest & Louie
Muriel
Title: Re: John William Pateman
Post by: magslote on Monday 05 April 21 12:33 BST (UK)
Thankyou yes the Doreen you found is on the 1939 register.
sincere thanks.margaret.xx