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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Nottinghamshire => England => Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: honestlove65 on Wednesday 07 April 21 11:51 BST (UK)
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Hello Can anybody help me find William (BILLY) Hardy all I know from what I'm told he died in Saxilby Lincolnshire 1921 he was walking home from pub and drown in water he is cousin to Thomas Hardy from Worksop who was born 1912. Sorry I have no more information but I tried looking for William buried in Saxilby but no luck. Maybe I'm looking in wrong places. Thank you in advance
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Have you located the death entry on the GRO registers :-\
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The only one I can see around that time was this one
Deaths Sep 1924
Hardy William age 74 Lincoln 7a 493
He died 23rd August according to Lincolnshire Echo 28 August 1924, his occupation was a Joiner
Probate to Arthur Hardy, Herbert Hardy & Nellie Cooling (nee Hardy)
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Thank you Rosie that's all I could find too.. Its not easy when I have little information to give
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The age of death suggests a birth year of 1854.
But you say he was a cousin of someone born 1912 - so maybe not first cousin? Or is 1912 wrong? How do you know that they were related?
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Thank you Rosie that's all I could find too.. Its not easy when I have little information to give
You need to go back to the person you know about ie Thomas bn 1912 and work from there.
Is this the Thomas you mean
Births Jun 1912
Hardy Thomas mmn Smith Worksop 7b 66
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The Sheffield Daily Telegraph has a snippet of news on him dated 31st March 1916
"William Hardy, a Saxilby joiner, and his son were conveying a coffin in a light spring cart, and when near Hardwick the animal became very restive and the occupants alighted. They attempted to lead the pony but it reared and plunged but it eventually threw off its bridle broke loose and set off at a mad pace for Lincoln..." it knocked over two people but was eventually caught. I am hoping the coffin was empty at the time!
Lincolnshire Chronicle 10 Nov 1876
At the Hannah Memorial Wesley Chapel, Lincoln on the 7th inst. William Hardy of Saxilby to Jane Taylor of Skellingthorpe.
Lincolnshire Echo 23 Aug 1924
On August 23rd 1924 at Saxilby William the beloved husband of Jane Hardy aged 74 years
(FREEBMD Sep 1924 Lincoln 7a/493 William Hardy aged 74)
Lincolnshire Echo 29 April 1935
On April 27th at Saxilby Jane the beloved wife of the late William Hardy aged 83 years, funeral at Saxilby.
Echo. 28 Aug 1924
Legal Notice Re Mr William Hardy deceased. All persons having any clain or demand against the estate of William Hardy late of Saxilby retired joiner who died on the 23rd inst. ....
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William and Jane are in the censuses in Saxilby, with a pob of Saxilby for William and yob around 1850.
Unfortunately freeBMD gives 2 possible births for a William Hardy in 1849,both in the reg district of Lincoln, which covers Saxilby.
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Thank for your help I found my William in newspaper clip he died. Tuesday 8th November it was in Retford newspaper
Now I just need to find his family he was born 1889 it says on death index so he was 22 yrs old. Thank you all oh it also said he lived at no fixed abode
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The death was registered in E. Retford reg district which does not cover Saxilby.
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/east%20retford.html
Deaths are registered in the area that they occur.
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Newspaper report states - William Hardy, 22, Labourer who had recently been living in a tent in a field at Scrooby was found dead in a hedge bottom at Vicarage Lane, Scrooby yesterday morning, by another labourer John Smith
It was in the Nottingham Evening Post 07 November 1921 so he must have died on the 6th
Thank for your help I found my William in newspaper clip he died. Tuesday 8th November it was in Retford newspaper
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Thank for your help I found my William in newspaper clip he died. Tuesday 8th November it was in Retford newspaper
Now I just need to find his family he was born 1889 it says on death index so he was 22 yrs old. Thank you all oh it also said he lived at no fixed abode
if he was 22 when he died in 1921 he was born in 1899...
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Thank you again for your help rosie saxilby is what my aunt told me he was when he died so shes wrong , and i was only able to see a little of the paper info as im not paid subsciption to see all the details or i missed it but thats a gret help thank you , i just need to find his parents now to help me tie the mto my uncle tommy hardy born 1935 the thomas hardy i mentioned earlier in conversation i was wrong i ment thomas hard born 1872 married to mary ann smith regards mandy
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Perhaps then we should be working from this marriage
Marriage Sep qtr 1900
Hardy Thomas
Smith Mary Ann
Worksop 7b 73
If William who died age 22 is a cousin to the Thomas born 1912 to Thomas & Mary Ann then he has to be a child of a sibling of Thomas Snr.
St John. Worksop
Marriage 20 Aug 1900
Thomas HARDY age 28 - Bachelor - occ Hawker
Groom abode Building Ground Sandhill Street
Mary Ann SMITH age 20 - spinster
Bride abode Building Ground Sandhill Street
Groom's father William Hardy occ Hawker
Bride's father Rudolph Smith occ Hawker
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Are you sure about William who died being a cousin of your Thomas. I can't give details but in 1911 Thomas & Mary A have a 'son' William that would fit with the age of the one that died.
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All I know is William is a cousin of Thomas Hardy born 1872 who married Mary ann smith I made a mistake saying Thomas 1912. But thing is they very evasive with information I don't understand why. There's also Thomas born 1912 he married winfred Richardson they had a son called Thomas born 1935 so maybe William is his cousin. Its all confusing.. Thank you for your help and sorry for the confusion but this is how I'm told the story. Regards mandy
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I have a William "Billy" Hardy in my family line, with similar dates, but in Canada. I don't know if perhaps that's possible for your line, but I thought I would mention it in the event that it helps with something :)
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Thank you everyone for your help but I been going over the family again I have it wrong. But I'm told my greatgrandad William was the cousin of Thomas Hardy born 1935 married rosetta pearcy. Thomas born 1935 his father Thomas Hardy born 1912 married winnifred Richardson. Then his father Thomas born 1872 Newark Notts then his father was was William Hardy born 1845 Notts. So sorry for the confusion. I'm looking into this side today again. I'm told that my great grandfather William was the nephew of Thomas born 1912 but I'm wondering if he was intact nephew of William 1872 instead. But like I say thank you everyone.
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William Hardy aged 32 married 25 Nov 1878 at St Saviours Church, Clarborough, his wife was Rosanna SAXILBY (could this be where the Saxilby reference came in?)
Children of William and Rosanna
John D Q 1879 Doncaster 9c/656 MMS Saxilby
Sarah S Q 1884 East Retford 7b/16 MMS Saxilby
Charlotte D Q 1886 East Retford 7b/15 MMS Saxilby
Emily D Q 1891 East Retford 7b/15 MMS Saxilby
Mary Jane J Q Worksop 7b/26 MMS Saxilby.
Apart from John the rest of their children are daughters.
Now for your great grandfather William to be the cousin of Thomas Hardy (1935) put simply, their fathers must have been brothers. So they share a set of grandparents.
There is a Robert Hardy and his wife Sarah baptising children in Newark.
3 Nov 1846 William Hardy father a labourer
8 Apr 1851 Thomas Hardy father a labourer abode Baldertongate.
28 Apr 1861 Henry Bower Hardy father a potter abode Cross guns Yard
22 July 1856 Frederick father a Tramps and? Abode Nottingham.
so you need to look at the sons marriages and their children and see if there is a cousin connection. Of course there is also the added complication if a daughter had a child!!
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Thank you so much for your help larkspur
That's big help :)