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Title: Searching for a marriage
Post by: wilcoxon on Wednesday 07 April 21 13:00 BST (UK)
Cyril Walter Cuthbert born 1907 in Lincolnshire,  parents Walter and Rosa Harriet Cuthbert. 

In 1925 he arrived in Canada,  Quebec as a farmer.
By 1934 he is back in England with his wife Elizabeth Susan. Their children have mmn Creighton.
I think I got Elizabeth Susan b Ireland with her family already in Canada,  but can't find a marriage in UK for them.
Thanks
Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 07 April 21 13:46 BST (UK)
Cyril gave the Land Settlement Branch in Calgary, Alberta, as his destination. Did he ever get there? Did he marry there?

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The children are not blocked out on the 1939 register.

Cyril was born 13 Feb 1934
Kathleen was born 7 March 1938

1939 didn't ask for birthplaces. :( 
Are there birth records for them? Where?

edited, see next posts
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Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 07 April 21 13:49 BST (UK)
a tree says both children were born in Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire.

edit: here is Cyril (Jr)

CUTHBERT, CYRIL              
GRO Reference: 1934  M Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG  Volume 07A  Page 972

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Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 07 April 21 13:54 BST (UK)
I think I got Elizabeth Susan b Ireland with her family already in Canada,  ...
Thanks

Next question: where and when do you have Eliz with her family?
Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 07 April 21 14:05 BST (UK)
1939: Elizabeth Susan Cuthbert, b 20 Aug 1906
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Irish civil registration
Elizabeth Susan Creighton, born 20 Aug 1906, Tully, Irvinestown, Fermanaugh, daughter of James a laborer of Tully, and Catherine (maiden name Davis). informant: the mother

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so she is not the Eliz on the 1901 and 1911 Canadian censuses, born 1890 daughter of a Mary Ann __ , whom the trees on ancestry think she is
Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 07 April 21 14:15 BST (UK)
Eliz, parents and siblings in Tully, Fermanagh in 1911.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Rockfield_or_Killaclean/Tully/521795/

edited, added details:


1911
Creighton
James, 52
Catherine, 48
Mary Ann 13
Robert John, 12
Emily Letitia 8
Elizabeth Susan 4
Thomas George 1
Letitia, 77, widow
all C of I, all born in Fermanagh

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so did the Creightons ever go to Canada?
Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: wilcoxon on Wednesday 07 April 21 15:02 BST (UK)
Thanks for your interest. It's a different family in Canada this one was born in  1890.

On the arrivals list for Canada , father is Walter Cuthbert,  East Street, Hibaldsow , Brigg which is the area they lived before. 

I've been trying to find the death of Walter Cuthbert  and if he was still alive in 1939 but no joy with that either.


Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: wilcoxon on Wednesday 07 April 21 15:34 BST (UK)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=581379.0


Well it seems Ive been searching for a long time. I'd completely forgotten about this.
Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: oldohiohome on Wednesday 07 April 21 16:25 BST (UK)
Trying to put Cyril and Elizabeth in the same place at the same time, I looked for the Creightons.

The Creightons might have left Tully, Fermanagh, soon after 1911. They had a child Francis 14 Jul 1912 there, then Letitia died 10 Feb 1915, but her informant was her son John, not James, present at death.

But where did they go?  I don't see any of them in Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, in 1939. I looked for exact name only in the 1921 census of Canada and didn't find them in Calgary or Quebec. You might have the patience to try variant spellings. It is at
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

As for the marriage:
I tried freebmd for the marriage of Cyril W Cuthbert and Eliz. S Creighton - not found. And I tried at ancestry.com for their marriage 1930 +/- 5 years, Quebec, Calgary, and anywhere - not found.




Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: wilcoxon on Wednesday 07 April 21 18:57 BST (UK)
Elizabeth Susan Cuthbert died in 1981. Dob 20 August 1906.
Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: jorose on Sunday 11 April 21 13:51 BST (UK)
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
 - there's one possible marriage here that shows up for a Cyril Cuthbert (about 1931) - you would need an account to see more information.
Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: oldohiohome on Sunday 11 April 21 14:11 BST (UK)
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
 - there's one possible marriage here that shows up for a Cyril Cuthbert (about 1931) - you would need an account to see more information.
I have an account and it didn't require credits to see these results. I searched for each name separately and found this:

registration information    name            other party's surname   date    reg. district

M/1931/V1/2625/4/11    Cyril    Cuthbert    Creighton    18th November 1931    Fermanagh

M/1931/V1/2625/4/11    Elizabeth    Creighton    Cuthbert    18th November 1931    Fermanagh
Title: Re: Searching for a marriage
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 11 April 21 14:24 BST (UK)
Thats great, I did wonder if he stopped off in Ireland on his way back. Obviously I was searching on the wrong Irish site.
Thanks.