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Title: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Rachael89 on Thursday 08 April 21 22:11 BST (UK)
Hi all,

I'd really appreciate help with dating the photo attached - it's of an unknown young woman, and getting a good estimate on the date would be very helpful! The dress looks almost too fanciful to me 'normal' clothing to me, though I'm far from an expert and would appreciate any insights that could be provided on the hair/fashion in particular.
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Jayhen6 on Friday 09 April 21 20:51 BST (UK)
Any chance of a photo of the back of the image?
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Rachael89 on Friday 09 April 21 22:19 BST (UK)
It's completely blank I'm afraid - sorry!
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 April 21 22:56 BST (UK)
To me, it looks like an Edwardian actress. It's as if she's posed on a stage set.

I'd be interested in what Carol and Jim think.
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 10 April 21 00:09 BST (UK)
It could, just possibly, be mid 1880s of a young girl whose hair is not yet up and hem is not fully down - so 16-18. however, I still think it looks theatrical.
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 10 April 21 03:20 BST (UK)
I have absolutely nothing to add apart from she looks as though she's standing in front of a mural if that's the same as what Gadget was meaning?...

It's a beautiful pic of a stunning young woman & I'd love to see it coloured  :)

Annie
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 10 April 21 04:13 BST (UK)
To me, it looks like an Edwardian actress. It's as if she's posed on a stage set.

I'd be interested in what Carol and Jim think.

Like one of G&S's 'Sisters and Cousins and Aunts'  from HMS Pinafore?   I could go with that!   ;D
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 10 April 21 04:20 BST (UK)
Like one of G&S's 'Sisters and Cousins and Aunts'  from HMS Pinafore?   I could go with that!   ;D
That’s interesting Wiggy. i was thinking of G & S too - “Mabel” from Pirates of Penzance.
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 10 April 21 04:27 BST (UK)
To me, it looks like an Edwardian actress. It's as if she's posed on a stage set.

I'd be interested in what Carol and Jim think.

I agree. I thought the same before reading the other replies. It’s got a theatrical vibe.
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 10 April 21 10:43 BST (UK)
Before reading the other comments my thought was that
this is a stock photo of an actress.
The backdrop is a typical 1880's/90's studio set.
Her curled fringe is also of that period so that is the timeframe
I would suggest.
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Rachael89 on Saturday 10 April 21 13:48 BST (UK)
Thanks all!

Just to check with the view of it being an actress, I have similar photos of relatives (who definitely weren't actors/actresses!) posing for studio photos with painted backdrops. Is it the woman's clothes/hair that are making people think she's probably an actress?

In a new development, the contact who shared the photo with me has sent me some other photos that I'd appreciate people's perspectives on relative to the original photo of the young lady. The attached photos show a mother and child - the older woman was born in 1862, and the child (her daughter) was born in 1883. To my eyes, there's a striking similarity in the facial structures of the unknown young lady in my original post and the child shown in the portrait here.

Is there a chance that the unknown young lady could be the child's mother as a young woman? I estimate that the photos I attach here of the mother are dated to the late 1900s/early 1910s, when she's be in her late 40s. So if the photo of the young lady in my original post is from the mid-1880s, she'd be in her early 20s (which would correspond to the young lady's appearance).

I'd appreciate other people's input on this. Thanks!
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 10 April 21 14:04 BST (UK)
It is her clothing & hairstyle that indicates a stock photo of an
actress/singer/dancer.
Stock photos of notable people were very popular.
The photos of Evelyn are Edwardian with the 2nd. possibly up to WW1.
The child is difficult to date without seeing all of the card stock.
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 10 April 21 14:51 BST (UK)
My opinion is that it would be extremely difficult to determine a relationship by looking at a photo of a young woman and a photo of a child.

In this case I think both subjects have roundish faces but I'm not convinced there are other similarities.

I am guessing that the young girl may be a redhead. I don't think that the young lady is. Whether that is the case, or if it proves anything regarding relationships, I don't know.  :)
Title: Re: Victorian photo of young Manner's woman in needing of dating
Post by: Rachael89 on Saturday 10 April 21 17:48 BST (UK)
Thanks both! Those are very sensible/illuminating responses. It really is impossible to tell whether the different people are connected, but I appreciate the insights.