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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Devon => England => Devon Lookup Requests => Topic started by: markheal on Sunday 11 April 21 21:41 BST (UK)
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Any help with her early life and family will be valued.
I now see that STANAWAY has strong roots in Cornwall
Thyrza Keren-happuch Stanway [OR POSSIBLY STANAWAY]
18361881
BIRTH ABT 1836 Plymouth ?, Devon, England
DEATH 10 FEB 1881 9 Cambridge Gate, Regents Park, London, England
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Marriage in Edinburgh Scotland 14 Dec 1869.
Julius Paul Leopold Beer
18361880
BIRTH 30 SEP 1836 Frankfurt am Main, Stadtkreis Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany
DEATH 1 MAR 1880 Menton, Alpes-Maritimes, Provence-Alpes-Cτte d'Azur, France
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Son of the union:???
POSSIBLY NAMED BORN BEFORE THE 1869 MARRIAGE AS:
Births Sep 1858 (>99%)
Stanaway Frederick Arthur Holborn 1b 422
Stanaway Frederick A Holborn 1b 422
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Frederick Arthur Beer [Bought The Observer newspaper for his wife Rachel SASSOON to edit].
18581901
BIRTH 8 JUL 1858 Marylebone, London, England
DEATH 30 DEC 1901 7 Chesterfield Gardens Mayfair, St George Hanover Square, London,
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1871 Census
Thyrza K Beer
Age35
Birth Year183
Wife
born Swonshire ?? Plymouth
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Baptism in cornwall for Thirza K
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=5798682
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born Swonshire ?? Plymouth
Devonshire
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Wondering if this is her?
1851
Swails Buildings, Hammersmith
Grace Stanaway 48 - widow, b PLymstock, needlewoman
John Stanaway 19 - coach painter b Eggbuckland
Theresa Stanaway 15 - b Falmouth
Matilda Stanaway 10 - b Plymouth
They're not immediately obvious on 1841, not can I find a birth for MAtilda
Found this before the baptism was posted, which seems to match!
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Potential death of father
STANAWAY, WILLIAM GRIBBLE
Age 46
Q2 1846 KENSINGTON, PADDINGTON AND FULHAM Volume 03 Page 213
Buried 14 June 1846 - address King St, Hammersmith
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What about the other child in 1871 - she was born before the marriage as well
Ada Louisa Sophia Beer age 4 born Greenwich Kent
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Matilda Rosetta (or Rosella)'s father is named on her marriage as William Gribble Stanway, coachbuilder
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they married in Edinburgh in 1869, so downloading their marriage cert should give you details of both parents.
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Grace SCOBLE seems to be mothers maiden name.
Another daughter Rebecca
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMJX-WHS
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William was a miner, before a coachbuilder, according to Rebeccas baptism
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=5776290
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Marriage for William Stanaway and Grace Scoble
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC97-8PZ
OR with mis transcribed surname
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2G7-PXC
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What about the other child in 1871 - she was born before the marriage as well
Ada Louisa Sophia Beer age 4 born Greenwich Kent
Milliepede
Many thanks, I have her dying young.
Ada Louisa Sophia Beer
18661875
BIRTH 30 DEC 1866 Greenwich, Kent, England
DEATH 6 JAN 1875 Marylebone, London, England
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Marriage for William Stanaway and Grace Scoble
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC97-8PZ
OR with mis transcribed surname
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2G7-PXC
NEALE
Many thanks for tracking her to Redruth.
I notice the father William alternates between STANWAY and STANAWAY!
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Potential death of father
STANAWAY, WILLIAM GRIBBLE
Age 46
Q2 1846 KENSINGTON, PADDINGTON AND FULHAM Volume 03 Page 213
Buried 14 June 1846 - address King St, Hammersmith
MABEL
Many thanks, I will certainly follow up this GRIBBLE middle name.
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Birth for William STANAWAY 1800 in Calstock Cornwall (on the Devon border, close to Pymouth)
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=5993372
Children born to Matthew STANAWAY/ STANNAWAY (a miner) and Honour GRIBBLE
William 1800
Elizabeth 1803
John 1806
Mary 1809
George 1811
Rebecca 1816
Marriage of Honour GRIBBLE to Matthew STANNWAY 1799, Calstock Cornwall
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=1308837
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Burial for Honour (Gribble) STANAWAY 1859 (age 83) in Calstock
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=4371482
2 possible births for Honour:
Birth for Honour GRIBBLE 1777 Calstock to William GRIBBLE (a miner) and Martha TERRELL
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=5588627
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Birth for Honour GRIBBLE 1775 Calstock to Benjamin & Eliz
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=5992569
Marriage of William GRIBBLE and Martha TERRELL 1774 Calstock
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=1308658
- their only child appears to be Honour.
Children born Calstock of Matthew GRIBBLE and Elizabeth no marriage record found
- George 1774
- Honour 1775
- Mary 1776
- Benjamnin 1779
- William 1782
- Elizabeth 1785
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I knew much of this but posting
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia as it saves typing.
Keren-happuch (Hebrew: קֶרֶן הַפּוּךְ Qeren Happūḵ, Hebrew pronunciation: [ˈqeren hapˈpux], "Horn of kohl") was the youngest of the three beautiful daughters of Job, named in the Bible as given to him in the later part of his life, after God made Job prosperous again. Keren-happuch's older sisters are named as Jemima and Keziah (Job 42:14). Job's sons, in contrast, are not named.
Keren-happuch, along with her sisters, was described as more beautiful than all the other women in the land. Also, unusually and in common with her sisters, Keren-happuch was granted an inheritance by her father, with her brothers as might have been expected (Job 42:15). Apart from these brief references at the end of the Book of Job, she is not mentioned elsewhere in the Bible.
Peter Bloomfield suggests that the beauty of his daughters "underscores Job's complete recovery. Job had been a very sick man but you would never know it by looking at his daughters."[1]
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Use of such a name may indicate a religious affiliation
-- perhaps Methodism or other non-conformism.
Interestingly I have a coach builder in Deptford marrying someone Cornish.
Also a connection to ship wrights.
Does anyone know if this is a trend and if so why?
Regards
pH
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pH
Thank you!
I have learnt so much this evening as I lack a Biblical education. Biblical names are great to follow as they are so distinctive and make an exciting change from the much repeated English family standbys.
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Burial for Honour (Gribble) STANAWAY 1859 (age 83) in Calstock
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=4371482
2 possible births for Honour:
Birth for Honour GRIBBLE 1777 Calstock to William GRIBBLE (a miner) and Martha TERRELL
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=5588627
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Birth for Honour GRIBBLE 1775 Calstock to Benjamin & Eliz
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=5992569
Marriage of William GRIBBLE and Martha TERRELL 1774 Calstock
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=1308658
- their only child appears to be Honour.
Children born Calstock of Matthew GRIBBLE and Elizabeth no marriage record found
- George 1774
- Honour 1775
- Mary 1776
- Benjamnin 1779
- William 1782
- Elizabeth 1785
NEALE
Thank you again,
I was starting to suspect that I was getting these two conflated. I will try correct my mistakes tomorrow.
Mark
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Elizabeth, another sister to Kirza, bapt 25 dec 1824
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6WS7-ZWR?i=36&cc=1769414
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Just to note it was Julius not Frederick who acquired the Observer - a brief obit from the Cardigan Observer a
Another well-known newspaper proprietor in London has just died. It is not so very long since the deaths were recorded of Mr. Johnston of the Standard, and Mr. Levy-Lawson of the Daily Telegraph, and now the decease is announced of Mr. Julius Beer of the Observer, who died suddenly of apoplexy at Mentone, whither he had gone a month ago to recruit his health. Though not an Englishman, as the name implies, Mr. Julius Beer, who was born in Frankfort, came over to London when he was still a very young man, and identified himself with the country of his adoption. Mr. Beer, who was only forty four years old at his death, possessed great financial ability, and he succeeded in acquiring wealth at a comparatively early age. The Observer, which formerly used to be recognised as an organ of Whig opinion, has given an independent support to the policy of the present Government during the time they have been in office. The leading articles, whether one agrees with their sentiments or not, may get the credit of being distinguished for judiciousness and general solidity of thought and argument.
His brother Arnold also died in 1880, and their mother Sophia died on Christmas day that year
It was the Sunday Times that Mrs Beer owned and edited
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Ada was commemorated at the family mausoleum in Highgate
https://victorianweb.org/art/architecture/cemeteries/16.html
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Ada was commemorated at the family mausoleum in Highgate
https://victorianweb.org/art/architecture/cemeteries/16.html
OSPREY,
many thanks for this website with fine photos.
I shall visit when I am able.
More details:
https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101378887-mausoleum-of-julius-beer-in-highgate-western-cemetery-highgate-ward#.YHR3-q9Kg2x