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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: LouiseRB on Tuesday 13 April 21 10:42 BST (UK)
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Hello everyone, my name is Louise and I’m looking for information going back on DIRK VAN RHIJN/VAN RHYN.
I only have the following information:
- Born: 18/08/1895
- Christened: 23/08/1896
- Married: 29/01/1923 to Margaretha Johanna Bester (Leipoldtville NG Kerk, spelt ‘van Rhijn’ on marriage certificate)
- Children: Johanna Margaretha, Elizabeth Maria Wilhelmina, and Dirkie Jacoba Elizabeth (spelt surname ‘van Rhyn’)
- Died: 28/08/1932 (Sandkraal Clanwilliam, spelt ‘van Rhyn’ on the death certificate)
Potential father: Dirk van Rhijn born c. 1871, christened 15/09/1872. No other information known.
Note: he is NOT the son of Petrus Benjamin van Rhyn and Susara Hendrika Maria Roussow as their son Dirk (born on the same day) passed away in 1955
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So, you've got his christening date, but not the names of his parents .... strange!
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Just a point -
In Dutch (and presumably Afrikaans) the "ij" letter is somewhat equivalent to a "y".
"ij" comes separately in a Dutch dictionary, after "y" ;D
The painter Rembrandt is known in the Netherlands as Rembrandt Van Rijn ;D
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Where did you get the birth and baptism dates from for your Dirk? The only baptism with those details is that of the son of Petrus Benjamin. Looking at his marriage to Margaretha his year of birth was about 1897.
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A friend of mine that has a lot of experience with genealogy gave the details to me - although I appreciate that mistakes can happen. I’m just looking at the death certificate, he was 36 when he died in 1932 so perhaps his birth date was 1896. I’m still not able to find any information on those dates though...
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Where did you get the birth and baptism dates from for your Dirk? The only baptism with those details is that of the son of Petrus Benjamin. Looking at his marriage to Margaretha his year of birth was about 1897.
Sorry, just realised I may have been supposed to reply while quoting you.
My reply to your question went directly onto the thread!
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With respect, I think that your friend was incorrect. Easy to do as there are a number of people with the same name.
Are you sure of the date of death? Dirk, on his marriage certificate is a farmer, whereas the Dirk on the death is a herdsman.
The one who died in 1932 did not leave an estate that I can find - being a farmer that would be a bit odd I think.
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With respect, I think that your friend was incorrect. Easy to do as there are a number of people with the same name.
Are you sure of the date of death? Dirk, on his marriage certificate is a farmer, whereas the Dirk on the death is a herdsman.
The one who died in 1932 did not leave an estate that I can find - being a farmer that would be a bit odd I think.
I feel as though I’m not sure of anything now, it’s a bit disappointing to be honest...
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I have just checked the marriage of Dirkie - her mother was born on 14/2/1901 - whereas her marriage gives a year of about 1897.
Which of the daughters is your relative? Perhaps it is worth starting from the beginning again!
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I have just checked the marriage of Dirkie - her mother was born on 14/2/1901 - whereas her marriage gives a year of about 1897.
Which of the daughters is your relative? Perhaps it is worth starting from the beginning again!
My granny is Dirk’s daughter Elizabeth but she’s deceased and no one living knows any information. It’s quite frustrating!
The birth date I have for Dirk’s wife is 14/02/1901. Where are you able to view all this information? I have tried ancestry, my heritage, family search, and attempted various archives but nothing comes up.
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I found the information on familysearch. I am going to message you
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I found the information on familysearch. I am going to message you
It would be nice if those details were posted here as well to avoid duplication of efforts and/or missing important clues that could have resulted in a successful outcome.
Nevertheless ... after running out of possible parents, I wondered about something on Dirk's 1923 marriage certificate. Under the heading "Toestemming door wien gegeven ..." is mentioned: "Van ouders & voogden". If Dirk is the one who had "voogden", it could be possible that he wasn't born a "Van Rhyn".