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Title: Fanny Lovett
Post by: tancor2 on Tuesday 13 April 21 15:32 BST (UK)
I am trying to trace a marriage or a death for Fanny Lovett born 1850 in Hemel Hempstead, daughter of Thomas Lovett and Mary Ann Lovett nee Ebbethite.
 I have found one marriage for a Fanny Lovett in 1879 but this is another Family, her parents are William and Charlotte.
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Ellenmai on Tuesday 13 April 21 15:48 BST (UK)
There is a marriage for Frances Lovett to Henry Mead 3rd October 1869 Hemel Hempstead. Her father is Thomas Lovett Bricklayer, one of the witnesses is Mary Ann Lovett.
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 13 April 21 15:49 BST (UK)
You have posted on the Immigrants & Emigrants board.  Did she emigrate?  If so - to where & when?

Marriage above is promising as 1861 shows father Thomas was a bricklayers labourer
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: tancor2 on Tuesday 13 April 21 16:58 BST (UK)
She was Fanny not Frances so maybe not correct marriage.
As i could not find her i thought she may have emigrated i just do not know, because i do have lovetts who went to Australia but not a direct line to her.
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 13 April 21 21:18 BST (UK)
What is the last census you have her on?
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 13 April 21 21:24 BST (UK)
The Fanny Lovett b 1850 Hemel Hempstead was illegitimate as per GRO online - no mothers maiden name shown

June qtr 1850 Hemel Hempstead 6 539
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 13 April 21 21:43 BST (UK)
She is not the 1879 marriage in Hemel Hempstead - 1881 shows birthyear 1858

I think there are 2 Fanny Lovett’s born 1850 Hemel Hempstead.  The illegitimate Fanny was b Gt Gaddesden & is with grandparents in 1851

1851 & 1861 for your Fanny - her birth was not registered nor was her elder sister Sarah’s

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGPJ-F5G

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7JS-KB2
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:16 BST (UK)

I am trying to trace a marriage or a death for Fanny Lovett born 1850 in Hemel Hempstead, daughter of Thomas Lovett and Mary Ann Lovett nee Ebbethite.


Her birth was registered 1849

LOVETT, FRANCES    mmn   EBETHITE 
GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in HEMEL HEMPSTED  Volume 06  Page 547
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:18 BST (UK)
Following on from the marriage found for 1869 to Henry Mead

1881

Henry Mead 36
Fanny Mead 31 born Hemel Hempstead
Jenny Mead 8

Can't find a Jenny birth but there is an Anne born Jun 1873 with mothers maiden name Lovett

Correction can find a Jenny birth but Mar 1876
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:24 BST (UK)
1871 under Nead

Henry Nead 26 bricklayers labourer
Frances Nead 21 straw plaiter
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:32 BST (UK)
Is this them in 1891 Piece:   1124 Folio:   18 Page 29
 
Jazesbury Mead   47 bricklayers lab
Fanny Mead   42 Hemel Hempstead
Jane Mead   14 Hemel Hempstead, mill hand

Edit to add

are Jane & Jenny Mead same person  ???

1891 Piece:   1124 Folio:   17 page 28
Sarah Lee   75
Jenny Mead   15 granddaughter, Hemel Hempstead, mill hand sorter paper
Rose Rance   19

Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:36 BST (UK)
I think it must be but the Jazesbury threw me off course.

Only other Mead/Lovett birth I could see was Ellen in Mar 1886 with a corresponding Mar 1886 death. 
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:38 BST (UK)
Possible death for Henry Jun 1891 age 47
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:46 BST (UK)
I wonder if Fanny married again to

Edward Thomas Ambrose in 1897

1901

Edward T Ambrose 40 born Hemel Hempstead
Frances Ambrose 51 born Hemel Hempstead

Oh yes and in 1891 Edward is a lodger with Thomas & Mary A Lovett :o
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:50 BST (UK)
Possibly death

Frances Ambrose
Age at Death:   61
Registration District:   Burnley Lancashire
Dec 1910 Volume:   8e Page:   190
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:51 BST (UK)
Yes just arrived at the same conclusion Ladyhawk

Edward is widowed by 1911 so it all fits

Edward T Ambrose death Mar 1926 Burnley age 62
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 13 April 21 22:59 BST (UK)
and it looks as if Edward is with Fanny’s married daughter Jennie in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4ML-VNN

1901 Piece:   3885 Folio:   92 Page Number:   21
Abraham Ormerod   55
Jane Ormerod   54
Florence J Ormerod   15
Thos Ormerod   26
Jenner Ormerod   25 Hemel Hempstead, daughter in law
Elsie Ormerod   2 mmn MEAD
Henry Ormerod   1
John Thos Ormerod   4/12

edit to add

MEAD   Jenny   ORMEROD   Thomas   1898   Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended

Jenny Ormerod Death Age:   65
Registration District:   Nelson Lancashire
Mar 1941 Volume:   8e Page:   594

I wonder if Fanny married again to

Edward Thomas Ambrose in 1897

1901

Edward T Ambrose 40 born Hemel Hempstead
Frances Ambrose 51 born Hemel Hempstead

Oh yes and in 1891 Edward is a lodger with Thomas & Mary A Lovett :o

Lancashire BMD

AMBROSE   Edward Thomas   MEAD   Frances   1897   Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 13 April 21 23:36 BST (UK)
Is this them in 1891 Piece:   1124 Folio:   18 Page 29
 
Jazesbury Mead   47 bricklayers lab
Fanny Mead   42 Hemel Hempstead
Jane Mead   14 Hemel Hempstead, mill hand

Edit to add

are Jane & Jenny Mead same person  ???

1891 Piece:   1124 Folio:   17 page 28
Sarah LEE 75
Jenny MEAD 15 granddaughter, Hemel Hempstead, mill hand sorter paper
Rose Rance   19

This might be the connection to Sarah LEE from 1891 census

1861 Piece:   838 Folio:   6 Page Number:   5
Henry Lea   42
Sarah Lea   45
Charles Mead   19 son in law
HENRY MEAD 16 son in law >>>>>>>> is this the Henry that married Frances LOVETT in 1869
Harriett Lea   8
George Lea   3

MEAD, CHARLES    Mmn   BEGGERSTAFF 
GRO Reference: 1841  S Quarter in HEMEL HEMPSTED  Volume 06  Page 475

MEAD, HENRY    mmn   BICKERSTAFF 
GRO Reference: 1844  D Quarter in HEMEL HEMPSTED  Volume 06  Page 494

LEE, GEORGE    mmn    BIGGERSTAFF 
GRO Reference: 1856  J Quarter in HEMEL HEMPSTED  Volume 03A  Page 295

Marriages
Dec 1855  Hemel H    3a   470
Cross    John          
French Emma       
LEA    Henry       
MEAD    Sarah       

1851 Piece:   1715 Folio:   122 Page Number:   5
Sarah Mead   35 widow head of family
Ann Mead   17
John Mead   15
Jane Mead   12
CHARLES Mead 9
HENRY Mead   6
Sarah Mead   3
Henry Seear   32 lodger
All born H Hempstead
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: tancor2 on Wednesday 14 April 21 14:16 BST (UK)
last census i found her in was 1861
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: tancor2 on Wednesday 14 April 21 14:38 BST (UK)
I have been looking through boxes in my loft this morning, because i know i had my grandmothers  Florence Lovett bible from when she was confirmed.
And named in the back of the book are her father John and his siblings.They are Sarah Anne-Fanny-Thomas-Emma- James- Francis (Frank) -George no mention of a Frances but do you think maybe someone named Fanny would be another name for Frances As Frank is to Francis.
If so then the marriage for Frances that as been found could be correct.
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 14 April 21 15:31 BST (UK)
A whole lot of information has been found that points to her being the person you are looking for.

Absolutely yes Fanny/Frances are often interchanged  :) 
Title: Re: Fanny Lovett
Post by: tancor2 on Wednesday 14 April 21 15:37 BST (UK)
Thanks knowing that these two names are often interchanged that now answers my query.
thanks to all who have found information for me.