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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: fancy nancy on Tuesday 13 April 21 19:34 BST (UK)
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Hi everybody, it's been a long time since I have been on this site.... I am looking for information on Robert Dickson who was born in Cambusnethan 1887 and was married to Joan Wigston in Carluke in 1910. He was my late husband's grandfather and not one of the family that are still alive knows anything about him. Can anyone help me please. Thanks in advance
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On the Ancestry website there is a Robert Dickson, shown as born Carluke in 1885 - with a wife Joan - who died on 25th April 1939 in Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario. Gives him a birth date of 31 Dec 1885 though. (To clarify - it was Robert who died on this date, not Joan!!)
The death cert is shown -- which also reveals he had been a soldier.
maybe you will find him on emigration records or the Canadian census records.
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They both appear on the 1911 census in Carluke, see https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, the name is noted as Dixon, they have a daughter.
If you get the address from that record you can then check the Valuation Rolls, this might give an indication of when they left Scotland.
Colin
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From your post this is the most likely birth registration on Scotlands People, 30 credits will cost £7:50 for thta used wisely you can view a small number of records.
ROBERT DICKSON 1888 Cambusnethan. There are a number of others in the County born 1887 +/- 1 year.
Colin
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There is a Robert Dickson age 38 occupation miner going to friend Mr Matthew Winston
Edmonton Canada says his wife Mrs Joan Dickson of 71,Carnmouth Road Carluke and 4 children
Are following in the spring
Departure Greenock
Arrival date 21 February 1926 New Brunswick
Ship Montrose
Rosie
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Death for a Joan Dickson 1960 Carluke Lanarkshire aged 72 other surname Wigston
On Scotland's People
Also some records of their family so if this is the same family looks like they never went to join Robert in Canada ..Not seeing anything on passenger lists
Rosie
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www.findagrave.com has a picture of the grave for Robert Dickson
Burial Woodland Cemetery Hamilton Canada
Section 5 vets
Robert Dickson Cameron Highlanders
1939
Age 54
On the death certificate it says he was unemployed returned soldier
Rosie
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Great finds Rosie -- I couldn't find them on passenger lists either.
I am attaching just an extract from the death - showing relevant points - birthplace, wife's name, the words 'returning soldier' (what did that mean!)
My apologies for the tool bar appearing in the centre of the image - try as I might, I couldn't get it off.
Oh gosh now that clever Rosie has actually found the grave!! I'm still going to post this though.
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Not sure what that means :P
Think the burial and Grave stone has been paid for by funding from the army maybe ?with him being unemployed Don't see any army records for him
Rosie
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Just found some army records he was not in the army for long
Robert Dickson age 26 born Cambusnethan occupation miner
Enlisted 10/11/14
Discharged unfit 19/11/14
Regiment number 14184
Cameron Highlanders
Married to Joan Wigston 14/1/10 Carluke
Rosie
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Funnily enough there are 2 sets of papers for him - one set gives what seems to be 'vomiting after food' as the reason for him being medically unfit abt a week after he enlisted.
I can't understand why his death cert states 'returning soldier' and why he is buried in the 'Vets' section of the cemetery in Canada - IF that is, Vets means Army veterans.
Bit of a mystery unless he rejoined the Army when his medical problem was resolved - and then he did actually serve in WW1.
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Yes was thinking that myself if he rejoined ???
Rosie
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Can't see anything in the Canadian newspapers about his death - but it may be that papers for the area in question aren't on line for the required date yet - OR I've missed it!
Maybe some of the 'whizzes' on the Military Board can clarify the reference to 'returning soldier' and possibly explain why he is in a 'Vet' section of a cemetery, on the evidence available at the moment.
(Even better -- find some more Army papers maybe).
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There is a Robert Dickson age 38 occupation miner going to friend Mr Matthew Winston
Edmonton Canada says his wife Mrs Joan Dickson of 71,Carnmouth Road Carluke and 4 children
Are following in the spring
Departure Greenock
Arrival date 21 February 1926 New Brunswick
Ship Montrose
Rosie
Rosie, from the Valuation Rolls in 1925, there is this correponding entry:
Robert DICKSON
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 71 CARNWATH ROAD CARLUKE
CARLUKE
1925
VR010700398-
The family were there from at least 1915.
Monica
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Certainly seems as if wife Joan remained in Scotland. From the 1930-40 Valuation Rolls:
Mrs Joan DICKSON
Tenant
HOUSE 73 CARNWATH ROAD CARLUKE
CARLUKE
1930
VR010700490-
Monica
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Monica, I knew she lived in Carnwath Road Carluke but he was not with her then. None of the family that are still living knows anything about him. He is a mystery to all the family. I've been told he was not good to Joan at all
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From what Rosie and Pennines have found above, looks like he left her in 1926, going by that shipping manifest that Rosie has posted details on.
The family remained in Carnwath Road didn't they. Valuation Rolls only go up to 1940 currently on SP (they are slowing adding years online).
Not sure how you would find further details of his life in Canada. Maybe start a new thread on the Canadian Board here on RC and add a link to this thread so that others can see what Pennines and Rosie have already found.
Rosie has posted his death details too so again you have definite info and records to work with.
Monica :)
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fancy nancy,
You have been provided with details of his death in Canada - his emigration details to Canada, a photo of his gravestone - and details of a brief Army record.
So you do now know he went to Canada in 1926 and later died there. Or had you not seen the previous replies giving you that information?
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Yes Monica did see Robert on the Valuation Rolls 1925 then it was his wife Joan after that so I would assume Robert had left her and the family to go to Canada ..Like you Pennines not seeing anything in newspapers ::) ..As Monica has suggested doing a post on the Canadian Board might help
Rosie
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Thanks to all who helped me with this query for Robert Dickson.