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Title: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: bobtonks on Thursday 15 April 21 16:55 BST (UK)
In 1911 William Sutton [35] lived with his wife Mary Alice  [35] and their daughter Eileen [6].

The census records that they had been married 15 years and had 3 children, of which 2 had died.

I found William Sutton married Mary Alice Everill -  Prestwich 1895 8d 625
I also found Elizabeth Ellen Mosely 1897 - 1897 (Prestwich).  Sarah Alice 1901 - 1903 (Prestwich)
which may or may not be correct ???

I can't find Eileen. Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 15 April 21 17:04 BST (UK)
Posted on the Cambridgeshire board - where they living in Cambridge in 1911 as I can’t find any entry matching the info given

Where were William & Mary Alice born & what is Eileens birthplace?
Title: Re: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: cuffie81 on Thursday 15 April 21 17:29 BST (UK)
I think this is the family bob is referencing.

1911 Impington, Cambridgeshire
William Sutton, boiler stoker, 35, born Manchester
Mary Alice Sutton, 35, born Bunbury
Eileen Sutton, 6, born Manchester

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7KD-NLJ
Title: Re: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 15 April 21 17:36 BST (UK)
Thanks Cuffie

Ancestry have them as Lutton  ::)

Wonder if she was adopted?
Title: Re: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: bobtonks on Thursday 15 April 21 18:19 BST (UK)
it's possible she was adopted;  the 1911 record does state three children. AND ...  the name on the original does look like Lutton.
I found 1901 William & Mary A Lutton [both 1875] no children living Prestwich.
Title: Re: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 15 April 21 18:26 BST (UK)
Ancestry have them as Tutton in 1901 ::)
Title: Re: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 15 April 21 19:01 BST (UK)
Pursuing the adoption theory - but this could be a wild goose chase.

Looking at births for an Eileen in Prestwich RD then checking mmn on GRO shows one illegitimate Eileen in 1905 - surname Hines.  Can’t find anything on her under Hines in 1911 and the only female Hines marriage in Prestwich pre 1911 is Mary A to John Alfred Rothwell

Both birth & marriage were June qtr 1905
Title: Re: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: bobtonks on Sunday 18 April 21 07:43 BST (UK)
The whole family is a mystery. I can't find any information on any of them ... except .... all three,
William, Mary Alice and Eileen were living in Impington 1911. The rest is guesswork !!!
Assuming the 1911 census is correct William and Mary Alice were married 15 years (c1896); they had three children, two who died. and Eileen who came out of thin air.!!! I've not a clue about William and Mary Alice's parents.

Any ideas?
Title: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: magslote on Monday 19 April 21 07:14 BST (UK)
1911 census impington.
nancy pask, widow 1865 bury st edmonds.
winifred pask dau, 1893 jam wrapper, upper hollaway.
cecil pask 1894 highbury
William Sutton boarder 1876 boiler stocker, manchester.
mary alice Sutton 1876 cheshire.
eileen sutton boarder, 1905 manchester.
margaret.
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 19 April 21 07:50 BST (UK)
1911 census impington.
nancy pask, widow 1865 bury st edmonds.
winifred pask dau, 1893 jam wrapper, upper hollaway.
cecil pask 1894 highbury
William Sutton boarder 1876 boiler stocker, manchester.
mary alice Sutton 1876 cheshire.
eileen sutton boarder, 1905 manchester.
margaret.

Should there be a question attached to this census info?
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: magslote on Monday 19 April 21 09:24 BST (UK)
its from F.M.P the site never lies, why should there be a question mark.
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 19 April 21 09:26 BST (UK)
What was the point of the post, if you weren't asking a question?

I don't understand!
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: Jebber on Monday 19 April 21 09:33 BST (UK)
I don’t understand the point of the post either. ???
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 19 April 21 09:39 BST (UK)
Perhaps because Ancestry has transcribed the "Boarder" surname as Lutton.  :-\
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 19 April 21 09:42 BST (UK)
What was the point of the post, if you weren't asking a question?

I don't understand!

Nor do I ?
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: cuffie81 on Monday 19 April 21 09:54 BST (UK)
I think magslote has just inadvertently created a new thread rather than replying to bobtonk's existing thread (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=847569.0) about the Sutton family.
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: magslote on Monday 19 April 21 10:05 BST (UK)
thankyou caffie81, you MAY  be correct.lets hope so.?
also found 1891 browns hill, rushton cheshire.
martha mousley, single, a famer 1849 rushton.
MARY ALICE EVERILL, servant, single, born 1876, bunbury cheshire.?
from you know where site, margaret.
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 19 April 21 10:16 BST (UK)
Magslote,if the original post at 7-14 am this morning should have been added to https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=847569.0

then send a request to a moderator to move it there and ask them to remove this thread.
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: magslote on Monday 19 April 21 10:25 BST (UK)
carol8385, please can you do it on by behalf, thankyou very much.margaret.
Title: Re: 1911 census new rd impington
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 19 April 21 10:45 BST (UK)
carol8385, please can you do it on by behalf, thankyou very much.margaret.

Well I hope Cuffie is correct in his suspicion that you intended the reply to go onto Bob Tonks Thread.

I will message the moderators(Very simple to do,you click on Report to Moderators) on your behalf.

Carol 8353
Title: Re: Eileen Sutton 1905
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 19 April 21 10:49 BST (UK)
it's possible she was adopted;  the 1911 record does state three children. AND ...  the name on the original does look like Lutton.
I found 1901 William & Mary A Lutton [both 1875] no children living Prestwich.

It does look like LUTTON, especially when compared to "S" in "Son" and "Single", however when comparing it to the "S" in "Stoker", I think the name is definitely SUTTON.