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Title: John Nicholson ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Jim Webster on Sunday 25 April 21 21:42 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me please.
Trying to find the surname of my 3xGreat Grandmother who was the mother of John Nicholson Atkinson (born c1821). On his baptism transcription she is named as Deborah. I believe she was the first wife of John Atkinson (born c1796) and was either divorced or died after the birth of John Nicholson Atkinson in 1821 and before the birth of his first child (also called John) to his second wife Hannah Rodham in 1826 when living at 166 Gilesgate, Durham. Given the dates I would be pleasantly surprised if any information is available. If I were to hazard a guess I would say "Nicholson" as it seems to be a family tradition to give some of the children their mothers maiden name as a middle name.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Jim
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Comberton on Sunday 25 April 21 22:14 BST (UK)
Marriage
2nd September 1821
Durham St Giles
John Atkinson bachelor of St Giles and Debborah Dobinson of Wolsingham
by licence, John made x Debborah signed
witnesses Richard Tilly signed, Thos Atkinson made x
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Comberton on Sunday 25 April 21 22:20 BST (UK)
Son born 1822
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Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 25 April 21 22:21 BST (UK)
Could this be her baptism

Deborah Dobinson
Baptism 27 Dec 1789 Wolsingham,Durham,England
Father:    John Dobinson Mother:    Elizabeth
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Jim Webster on Sunday 25 April 21 22:48 BST (UK)
WOW, That was quick. Looks to fit the bill perfectly and gives me something to work on.
Dare I ask where the birth certificate came from and was it free? if so where can I get a copy.
Might try my luck on my grandmothers branch next.
Thank you
Jim
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 25 April 21 22:52 BST (UK)
Possible marriage of Deborahís parents

John Dobinson
Marriage    15 May 1785 Wolsingham,Durham,England
Spouse:    Elizabeth Nicholson
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Comberton on Sunday 25 April 21 22:56 BST (UK)
The images for the marriage and the baptisms are on FindMyPast which is a subscription site.
You can download the baptism image from the post.
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 25 April 21 23:18 BST (UK)
Marriage record transcribed  on FreeReg
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817cff1e93790eb7f9da7d1/deborah-dobinson-john-atkinson-marriage-durham-durham-1821-09-02?locale=en

Baptism record transcribed
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58180673e93790ec8b9862cc/john-nicholson-atkinson-baptism-durham-durham-1822-09-29?locale=en
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 25 April 21 23:32 BST (UK)
Siblings for John Nicholson ATKINSON
William 1824
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58180674e93790ec8b98640b/william-atkinson-baptism-durham-durham-1825-06-26?locale=en

Joseph 1826
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58180674e93790ec8b9864f3/joseph-atkinson-baptism-durham-durham-1826-12-31?locale=en

Thomas 1830
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58180675e93790ec8b98675a/thomas-atkinson-baptism-durham-durham-1831-04-24?locale=en

Burial for Deborah (Dobinson) AITKINSON 1836
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817db49e93790ec7579ab2c/deborah-atkinson-burial-durham-durham-1836-08-23?locale=en
Note: her age at death would fit with the birth found by Ladyhawk.
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 25 April 21 23:53 BST (UK)
Burial for John AITKINSON in 1848 age 56.  Abode- Gilesgate (born at 1792)
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817db51e93790ec7579b33b/john-atkinson-burial-durham-durham-1848-11-20?locale=en

I wonder if this could be the burial for John AITKINSONís father in 1842  (age 86) Abode- Gilesgate
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817db4be93790ec7579ad40/john-atkinson-burial-durham-durham-1842-08-16?locale=en

his second wife Hannah Rodham in 1826 when living at 166 Gilesgate, Durham.
Jim
I can't see this marriage. He was still married to Deborah at this time.
I think that marriage was in 1838.  A son named Richard, born 1839, seen on 1841 census.
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 26 April 21 09:31 BST (UK)
his second wife Hannah Rodham in 1826 when living at 166 Gilesgate, Durham.
Jim
I can't see this marriage.
He was still married to Deborah at this time.
I think that marriage was in 1838. 
A son named Richard, born 1839, seen on 1841 census.


For info.

Dec 1838               
ATKINSON   John      Durham &c.   24   73    
female name on same page
RODDAM   Han       
RODDAM   Hannah      

ATKINSON, RICHARD   mmn RODHAM
GRO Reference: 1839  D Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 74   

ATKINSON, MARY  JANE   mmn RODDAM
GRO Reference: 1843  D Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 77   

1841c Piece:   320 Folio:   8 Page Number:   11
John Atkinson   45 shoemaker
Hannah Atkinson 40
John Atkinson   15 joiner
William Atkinson 15
Joseph Atkinson   14
Thomas Atkinson 10
Richard Atkinson 19 Mo

Possible baptism  Hannah RODHAM, parents Ricd , shoemaker & Isabella

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58180d14e93790ec8ba42c4d/hannah-rodham-baptism-durham-stanhope-1800-12-28?locale=en

Burial of Jane Rodham, sister Hannah Rodham Atkinson, son Richard
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218941802/hannah-atkinson



Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: Jim Webster on Monday 26 April 21 10:27 BST (UK)
Thanks to all for your contributions.
I always thought the key to unlocking my query was to find the Atkinson / Nicholson link.
Based on a combination of the information you have kindly provided I can now update my tree with confidence. Next step is to find John Nicholson's father's birth (now think it may be 1792 based on Deborah's dob 1789) and death dates (1848 based on 1851 census where Hannah is a widow).
Look forward to your learn of your findings,
Jim
Title: Re: JOHN NICHOLSON ATKINSON (b 1821)
Post by: bbart on Monday 26 April 21 17:21 BST (UK)

Burial for Deborah (Dobinson) AITKINSON 1836
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817db49e93790ec7579ab2c/deborah-atkinson-burial-durham-durham-1836-08-23?locale=en
Note: her age at death would fit with the birth found by Ladyhawk.

Just to help confirm this is the right lady, the newspaper edition Durham Chronicle 26 August 1836 has a brief death notice which states this Deborah was the wife of John Atkinson. Actual date of death was 22 Aug 1836.

Burial for John AITKINSON in 1848 age 56.  Abode- Gilesgate (born at 1792)
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817db51e93790ec7579b33b/john-atkinson-burial-durham-durham-1848-11-20?locale=en

Durham Chronicle 24 November 1848 states he was a shoemaker, date of death 17 Nov 1848.

If John had a son John who was also a shoemaker, this might belong to your family:
Durham County Advertiser 24 April 1846
Married
In this city, at St. Giles on Sunday last, Mr. John Atkinson, shoemaker, to Ann, daughter of Mr. Robt. Tuart, of the King's Arms Inn, Claypath Gates.