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Title: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: Maid of Kent on Sunday 02 May 21 14:10 BST (UK)
Any help in finding the above would be much appreciated.
His parents were Isabella Frampton and Thomas Kain, they married medway 1858, have been through medway church records and have not found their marriage.
 James is on the 1861 census with his parents. John street, Chatham. mistranscribed and Rain.
cant find him on the 1871 or any other. His parents are on the 1881.

after that he is mixed with James Kain born 1850 Chatham. parents James Kain and Emily Hinkley.

Thanks for looking and your time.
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 02 May 21 16:05 BST (UK)
He was James William per birth reg.  Could he be using his middle name?
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 02 May 21 16:20 BST (UK)
The 1858 birth reg shows mmn Newland.  In 1861 Thomas was 52 & Isabella 42.  Was she previously married?
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: Maid of Kent on Sunday 02 May 21 16:22 BST (UK)
yes Newland was the name of her father, she had been married 3 times, interesting that she is still using that name. She was born 'out of wedlock' her mother's name was Young
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: johnhood on Sunday 02 May 21 16:25 BST (UK)
Hi, Isabella was born 7.11.1819 in st Helena. Her parents being Peter and Ann NEWLAND. As Thomas was ex military I suspect they may have married abroad

John
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: paco on Sunday 02 May 21 16:44 BST (UK)
I see Thomas was born in Kilmore Tipperary Ireland about 1805 and died in Medway aged 82yrs having been in 62 Foot as a Sergeant joining on 12/5/1846. The marriage is online March qtr 1858 Medway.
Regards.
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: Maid of Kent on Sunday 02 May 21 16:48 BST (UK)
yes Paco and I trolled all through the Medway Churchs looking for that wedding, without success. I want to know if he was married before.
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 02 May 21 16:59 BST (UK)
Marriage Locator says:

http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/cgi-bin/ML_search.cgi?test=&year=1858&qtr=1&vol=2a&page=362&search=search
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: Maid of Kent on Sunday 02 May 21 17:08 BST (UK)
sadly not st nicholas or st margaret's in Rochester
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 02 May 21 17:14 BST (UK)
Perhaps, as a last resort, you could purchase the marriage certificate.

Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: Maid of Kent on Sunday 02 May 21 17:15 BST (UK)
Im a stubborn little creature, why the heck should I go the easy way......... lol




Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: johnhood on Sunday 02 May 21 17:18 BST (UK)
Must ask who the 3 previous husbands were!

John
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 02 May 21 17:18 BST (UK)
 :-X :-X
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: Maid of Kent on Sunday 02 May 21 17:34 BST (UK)
first husband John Mulcare 1805 Limerrick Ireland  97th Foot reg. married Isabella Young 1840 Alderbury, Wiltshire, son John Gillingham Kent 1842, son George Wilts 1848,  son Edward  Wilts 1850-1850, John also died in 1850.
second husband James Frampton  dob unknown died 1856 married in 1852 Wiltshire father given as Peter Newland; James died in 1856 no children.
third husband Thomas Kain, 1805 -1886 married 1858, son James William born 1858
Title: Re: James Kain born in Rochester Kent England 1858
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 02 May 21 17:52 BST (UK)
Apologies for this - I've only looked at the records available via Ancestry:

1852 - marriage of James Frampton - full age, soldier to Isabella.

1856 - burial of James Frampton - aged 55