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Title: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Sunday 02 May 21 20:04 BST (UK)
Margaret Watterson died September 22, 2011 in Philadelphia. I think she is the daughter of Adam Watterson and Susan Leslie and she was born in 1915.
Hoping to prove this.
Thanks for any help
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 03 May 21 12:17 BST (UK)
The major Philadelphia newspapers are searchable here - https://www.inquirer.com/archives/past-articles/  I didn't see her in them.
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 03 May 21 12:48 BST (UK)
Margaret Watterson birth 12 May 1915 Philadelphia to Adam Watterson & Susan Leslie-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPZL-PQ62

SSDI- Margaret Watterson born 12 May 1915, died 22 Sept.2011-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VHCH-T8W

1920 census- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXS6-132
1930? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHWD-2F6
1940? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQJD-XQP
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 14:08 BST (UK)


Not what you asked for but an article on father Adam (under Waterson) you may or may not have come across

The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
14 Dec 1944, Thu    Page 19

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76943137/adam-waterson-14-december-1944/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 15:01 BST (UK)
Daughter of Adam and Susan -  Lavina Watterson/McAleese.

Philadelphia Daily News Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 12 Oct 1992, Mon    Page 22

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76945084/obituary-for-lavinia-mcaleese/

US Obit Collection gives a summary of Elizabeth Watterson/Parker - will send by pm in case it is useful to you.

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 03 May 21 15:15 BST (UK)
Thank you aghadowey. Odds are very, very high that Margaret who died in 2011 is the exact same person as the one born to Adam and Susan, with the date of birth being the same. I couldn't find her in 1930 and 1940 but you may have. I wonder what became of her sisters found on the 1920.
And thank you *Sandra* very much for the article on Adam Waterson. What a sad event. He was living with his nephew Henry James Waterson in 1940 in Philadelphia.
Peggy
Oh, I see a new posting by you *Sandra*. You are marvellous. This posting actually solidifies that the three daughters all lived, and that all are alive in 1992. And that Margaret does indeed belong to the same family and that she was unmarried in 1992 as she was in 2011. Adam's sister Martha married a McAleese so Lavinia may have married a relative. Also, Lavinia is a name in the family - Adam's brother also named a daughter Lavinia. I was puzzled by the name Evine on the 1920 census but I now see that it was short for Lavinia. And Elizabeth married a Parker. Lots of info in this 1992 article.
Thank you.

Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 15:22 BST (UK)
Not sure if this one might also help you.

Henry James Watterson - The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
28 Dec 1998, Mon    Page 20

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76945937/obituary-for-henry-james-watterson/

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVTG-TMDC

Naruralization - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXF4-8NH

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 03 May 21 15:26 BST (UK)
There was also a stillborn daughter Anna in 1915-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6KX-WG3

Quote
I was puzzled by the name Evine on the 1920 census but I now see that it was short for Lavinia.
It may just be that the enumerator wrote the child's name that way.
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 15:27 BST (UK)

The Ithaca Journal Ithaca, New York 22 Mar 1956, Thu    Page 4

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76946139/marriage-of-watterson-ramsey/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 15:29 BST (UK)


Violet (Viola) (Moore) Watterson wife of Henry

Philadelphia Daily News Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 28 Feb 1998, Sat   Page 12

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76945937/obituary-for-henry-james-watterson/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: RJ137 on Monday 03 May 21 15:33 BST (UK)
Here is a link to the preview/summary obit at Family Search for Margaret's sister, Elizabeth Watterson Parker Dietrich.

Link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVYK-D9X1

I will PM you the actual obit that goes into more detail and gives the names and relationship to those mentioned in the preview.
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 15:53 BST (UK)
A few snippets you may or may not have.

Marriage License Issue - The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 29 Apr 1898, Fri  -  Page 11

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76947415/marriage-of-mcaleese-waterson/

Martha Waterson - Spouse:   John McAleese Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Marriage Year 1898 - Marriage License Number 102527

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ZW32-L76Z
 

This looks like Martha Watterson/McAleese on the 1900 census  ? Philip Street  Philadelphia Ward 33, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

John Mcarea 27   Head
Martha Mcarea   26   Wife. Born Ireland. Imm 1891. Married 2 years.
Hellen Mcarea 1  month   Daughter

Sandra



Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 15:58 BST (UK)
1910 census - Philadelphia Ward 19, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MG85-X5P


1920 census Front Street Philadelphia Ward 19, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Martha Mcaleese   41   Head - Widowed. NA
John J Mcaleese 16   Son
Helen Swain 20   Daughter
Michael J Burk 55   Boarder
John Berg 55   Boarder

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXS6-FD6



daughter - Helen McAleese

Baptism Date 13 May 1900 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Church Fairhill United Presbyterian Church
Father John McAleese - Mother Martha McAleese

1930 K Street Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

John M Koch 41   Head
Helen Koch 29   Wife
Martha M Mcaleese   60   Mother-in-law
John Mcaleese 26   Brother-in-law
Lavina Mcaleese 10   Sister-in-law

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:XCCW-GMW


Sandra

Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 16:01 BST (UK)


Lavinia Sue McAleese -Lavinia Sue Koch  - Lavinia McAleese
Birth Date 1 Jan 1920 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Death Date 10 Oct 1992
Father John J McAleese
Mother Martha M Watterson

Notes Sep 1939 - Name listed as Lavina Sue McAleese-Sep 1951 -  Name listed as Lavinia Sue Koch - 21 Oct 1992 -  Name listed as Lavinia McAleese.

SSDI -  https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:JYSY-8MR

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 16:03 BST (UK)


The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19 Aug 1970, Wed    Page 38

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76948021/obituary-for-john-m-koch/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 16:06 BST (UK)

Mrs Mortha Matilda Mcaleese - Mrs Martha Matilda Waterson - 1874 Ireland died 22 September 1935 Philadelphia PA - aged 61 years.
Father James Waterson - Mother Elizabeth Hurl - Certificate Number 84374

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 16:49 BST (UK)


son John J Mcaleese - 1939 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Spouse Stanfield.

SSDI - John McAleese - Birth Date 5 Aug 1903 - November 1973
Last Residence 19047, Langhorne, Bucks, Pennsylvania.
Issue Year Before 1951 - Issue State Pennsylvania.

Sandra

Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 16:49 BST (UK)

The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 14 Nov 1973, Wed    Page 18

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/76950885/obituary-for-john-j-mcaleese/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 03 May 21 17:29 BST (UK)
Wow, Sandra. You are finding stuff so fast, I can hardly keep up. I think I am seeing something here regarding Lavinia. I am thinking she was born Jan 1, 1920 (or 1919) to Adam Watterson and Susan Leslie. I say 1919 as she is on the Jan 1, 1920 census with Adam age 11 months. We know Susan died between 1920 and 1930. Lavinia was then raised or adopted by her aunt Martha McAleese, then later by Martha's daughter Helen McAleese who was now married to John M. Koch. Lavinia is on the 1930 census with Helen and John Koch as sister-in-law to John and she is age 10. I have now clued in that this must be Adam's daughter Lavinia.  So when Lavinia died in 1992, I presumed she had married a McAleese but that may not be the case. She may never have married.
As for the birth of John McAleese in 1908, I think that is a different John McAleese than the one born to Martha Watterson. John born 1908 seems to have mother Mary Whalen or McClure - records are confusing. His father born Delaware and mother born PA. Our John McAleese should be born abt 1904 as he is 5 on the 1910 census with both parents born Ireland.
Now for Martha's death certificate. I had found that before and puzzled about it. Date of death is correct but age is wrong and mother is wrong. All the other records that we have found confirm that Martha was born Sept 12, 1868 to James Watterson and MARGARET Hurl with brother Adam born Apr 10, 1878. James Watterson had married Margaret Hurl whereas his brother Joseph had married Elizabeth Hurl, who is NOT a sister to Margaret. Henry James is a son to Martha's brother William James Watterson.
Thanks again *Sandra*
Oh, I see your new info on John McAleese born Aug 5, 1903, died 1973. He may be our man!
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 17:59 BST (UK)
I didn't realise straight away that Lavina McAleese and Lavina/Evina Watterson were the same but that 1930 census pointed us that way.


Regarding the death certificate of Martha McAleese - we always say, information is only as good as the informants knowledge.  Sometimes birth dates and ages can vary,  even parents names.
John J McAleese was the informant which suggested to it being the correct person but with the wrong mother named.   Your not convinced this is Martha whose parents should be Joseph and Margaret rather than Elizabeth ?

Sandra

Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 18:06 BST (UK)
A New York Passenger List shows -
Martha Watterson aged 22 years, wife  arrived with a Benjamin Watterson aged 23 years - labourer.
Both from Magherafelt, going to Philadelphia arriving 18 September 1895 on the Indiana. Going to a brother in law or and ???  - Mrs Steal, 73166 Anaber/Amber Street - had been here eith 9 years as per index card or 6 years 5 months before (sorry found it difficult to unravel the writing)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KF69-FT1

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S7WX-98KK-N9?i=4778&cc=1921483

Does this couple belong to your family ?

Linking the County Tyrone thread

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=848107.0

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 18:32 BST (UK)


Did find this couple on the 1900 census living at 3266 Amber Street Philadelphia Ward 25, Philadelphia which could be the ones Benjamin and Martha were going to ??  Would that mean anything ??

Joseph Steele   40   Head. Imm 1878. NA. Carpet Weaver.
Mary Steele 39   Wif. married 20 years. Had 6 children and 6 survive.
Lizzie Steele 17   Daughter
William Steele 16   Son
Walter Steele 14   Son
Maggie Steele 6   Daughter
Esther Steele 1   Daughter
Laura Steele 0   Daughter

Sandra

Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 03 May 21 18:33 BST (UK)
I am absolutely positive that Martha is a daughter to James Watterson and Margaret Hurl. I have her baptism as well as her brothers Adam and William James, and her nephew Henry James, son to William James.
Now, Martha also had a brother Benjamin born 1870 so could well be him and his wife in 1895, with Benjamin being age 23. This would be a different Benjamin who was a son to Elizabeth Watterson of Co. Tyrone that you have sent the link for.
I need to find that emigration record to see info on Mrs. Steal on Anaber Street (could it be Amber St?). Benjamin did have an older sister Mary Jane born 1860. Maybe it is her.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 03 May 21 18:58 BST (UK)
Yes, I would say that Mrs. Steal/Steele would be Benjamin's sister Mary Jane who emigrated 1876 as per the 1900 census. Mary Jane was born Apr 1860 and the census says Apr 1861. Close.
You have found another sibling!
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 19:30 BST (UK)

FIND A GRAVE


Mary J. Watterson Steele - 1863 - 1948

On 4/8/1954, the following STEELE burials were moved from Belvue Cemetery (Section B, Lot 105) to Oakland, into Section U, Lot 103:

William Steele Laura Steele Mary J. Steele Joseph Steele Walter Steele

Oakland Cemetery Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania
PLOT   U-103

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/179046199/mary-j.-steele

Joseph Steele 1860 - 1914

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/179046182/joseph-steele

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/179046199/mary-j.-steele

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/179046210/william-steele

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/179046224/walter-steele

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/162787979/laura-steele

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 03 May 21 19:32 BST (UK)
On the 1910 census, Joseph and Mary Steele have aunt Elizabeth Hurrell aka Hurl, single, age 68 living with them.
In 1920, Mary J. is a widow with married daughter Maggie and her husband Raymond transcribed as La Van but not likely to be so. Mary Jane's last name transcribed as Steels.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 19:38 BST (UK)
There was an Elizabeth Hurl buried Bellevue Cemetery 4 July 1922 - aged 80 years.  (Apoplexy)

Sec B - Lot 113 - Grave I

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 03 May 21 19:41 BST (UK)

Elizabeth Hurl - Birth Date1842 Ireland - Death Date1 Aug 1922 - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Aged 80 years - Father John Hurl - Mother Nancy Quilly - Certificate Number 73193

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 03 May 21 19:51 BST (UK)
Thank you for the death info on Elizabeth Hurl. Mary Jane Steele nee Watterson had parents James Watterson and Margaret Hurl and Margaret's parents were John Hurl and Nancy Quigley which I think is probably the same person as Nancy Quilly at Elizabeth's death, which confirms her as an aunt to Mary Jane. Hard to keep  everyone straight.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 03 May 21 20:10 BST (UK)
Getting back to the obit of Henry James Watterson. It mentions brothers Isaac and Stewart so I am presuming they had also emigrated to Philadelphia. I have 12 siblings for Henry James.
I shall look for them.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 09:00 BST (UK)
Can't say I came across the two brothers.  They are not listed on FIND A GRAVE at    
Woods Chapel Church of Ireland Graveyard Magherafelt, County Londonderry as is mother, father, brother Stephen and sister Annie.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGR-X9FT

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGR-X9F5

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ql1/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 09:07 BST (UK)

Can you get an exact birth date for Elizabeth Watterson 1898 - the one that returned home to 2095 Nostrand Avenue in 1927 ?

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 09:42 BST (UK)
I remember looking at Joseph Watterson, thought we had covered him yesterday but quick glance couldn't see anything on this thread. Joseph  born - 20 April 1904 (arrived with Henry James Watterson - saw a photograph of him on an ancestry tree this morning) 23 Feb 1927.  Its all familiar, perhaps it was on the other thread.  So better twice than not at all perhaps !!
(Henry James married 4 March 1932 Philadelphia PA - Marriage License Number 611103)

On the passenger list he was going to an Aunt Anne Angus, did you find her ?

1940 census East 56th Street

Joseph Watterson   36   Head
Gladys Watterson 30   Wife  (was Gladys Emily Pelling)
Daughter "M" Watterson 1 month Daughter.

Gladys Pelling - Marriage License Date 11 Oct 1939 Manhattan, New York City, New York.
Spouse Joseph Watterson - License Number 14965

Sandra


Info was on the other thread - https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=848107.27
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 04 May 21 10:57 BST (UK)
Elizabeth who was returning to 2095 Nostrand in 1927 had dob Mar 18, 1896. Birth registered under Fanny. On one record, I saw that Elizabeth was returning to that address to her cousin Miss Mary Watterson but I haven't figured out who Mary is nor did I find either Elizabeth or Mary at that address at any time. Just now reviewing another post of mine, I had found the marriage of  Mary L. Watterson May 17, 1932 to Francis M. Doran. I wonder if that would be her cousin but I don't have the birth of Mary L. or her parents. If Mary L. turns out to be a cousin to Elizabeth, her father must be either Robert or John.
I did not find Isaac or Stewart Watterson in USA, nor I have found Joseph's aunt Anne Angus, despite much looking.
I did not realize Woods was on findagrave. Could be very helpful to me. Looking at the headstone erected by William R. Watterson, I was confused at first but read it more carefully. William Robert was the son of William James Watterson and Margaret Jane Davis and he erected the stone to his parents. And Stephen and Annie were William Robert's children which I didn't have as yet.
I have not found Benjamin Watterson or his wife Martha after their emigration in 1895. Maybe he didn't stay, only visiting. I didn't find Benjamin's marriage to Martha either which I presume was before emigration.
Thanks again for all your wonderful help.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 14:19 BST (UK)



There are a number of Elizabeth with a birth date 18 March 1896 but so far nothing showing under a married name in New York.

Isaac and Stewart Watterson do not seem to have immigrated to the USA, might be better to ask about them in Ireland.

Mary Watterson who married Francis Doran was born New York according to the 1940 census and Pennsylvania according to the 1930 and 1920 census. Her mother was Nora (McNamara) Hendry.

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/176924809/mary-doran

Sandra



Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 14:45 BST (UK)
There is a private ancestry tree for Benjamin Watterson born 21 February 1870 - part of the owners name includes "Hurl" - might be worth you trying to contact the owner. Lives in Ontario

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGVQ-36QP

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 04 May 21 16:59 BST (UK)
I only have access to the library edition of Ancestry which does not allow me to message tree owners. Also, I did not find a tree with Hurl in the owners name. I then went to the 1901 and 1911 Canadian censuses and did not find Benjamin.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 17:51 BST (UK)
It is obviously someone researching the Hurl family.  It is a private tree so information not readily available. Only 1509 people - Just interesting they have Benjamin Watterson in it.
Here are a few of the family to give you an idea. Not sure if you want to pursue the Hurl line.

I think that a few Hurl family have immigrated to Canada.

There is a marriage for Thomas Hurl

Thomas Hurl - 1892 Ireland - aged 33 years -
Marriage Date 28 May 1925 Canada, York, Ontario
Father William Hurl
Mother Mary Bell
Spouse Margaret Allen Ottaway.

Andrew John Hurl 28 November 1886 - died 22 April 1947 York Ontario - aged 60 years
Father William Hurl - Mother Mary Hurl - Spouse Sarah Carbett
Certificate Number 012526

Mary Jane Hall - 1899 Magherafelt Ireland  married 30 September 1920 York Ontario
Age:   21
Father Wallie Hurl
Mother Mary Bell
Spouse David Weston

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 17:53 BST (UK)


This looks like them in 1901

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ormeau/Roslyn_Street/1213023/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000710692/

and in 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Magherafelt/Townparks/613655/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002873248/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 18:01 BST (UK)

Thomas and George Hurl on the 1921 Canadian Census - https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003051008

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 18:07 BST (UK)

Hugh Hurl - under Hugh Harl - 1921 Canadian Census Manitoba.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002890685

FIND A GRAVE

Chapel Lawn Memorial Gardens Winnipeg, Greater Winnipeg, Manitoba.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114854348/hugh-hurl

spouse - Mary E. Hurl

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114854366/mary-e.-hurl

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 18:11 BST (UK)


1921 census Toronto

Mary Jane Hurl married David Weston (listed reply 37)

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003051008

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 18:18 BST (UK)
   
Listed on the private tree

William Hurl Birth   26 May 1847 Death    23 Jun 1926

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 04 May 21 18:21 BST (UK)

Next generation back might be - William Hurl 1812–1888
born 1812 - died  1888  Magherafelt, Londonderry, Northern Ireland.

Mary Ann Watterson 1820–1897
born 1820  Magherafelt, Londonderry, Northern Ireland
died 8 March 1897 - Magherafelt, Londonderry.

Sandra

Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 04 May 21 18:23 BST (UK)
Thank you for all of this. I tweeted Tina in Toronto and will see if she replies. I have a William John Hurl born 1837 in Carraloan, Co. Derry brother to Elizabeth Hurl who died in Philadelphia. I have another William John who married Mary Watterson in 1859. Now we are getting close.
thanks again
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 24 December 21 22:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra and all,
After much research and after seeing the private tree that Sandra found, I have Willam Hurl and Mary Bell on my tree. Their children Mary Jane Weston, Andrew John, Thomas and George were all in Ontario in 1921. Their son Hugh died in Winnipeg in 1990 and I have Hugh's obit which mentions David Weston and his daughter Jean Weston born 1920. Hugh's wife was Mary Evelyn Ward born in England, they married in England and Mary died Oct 1, 1986 in Winnipeg, and Mary's sister was Hilda Gladys Ward who married Frank Russell Gray. Hilda died Feb 23, 1985 and she had a daughter Barbara.
Would you have an obit for Andrew John Hurl who died Apr 22,  1947 in York Co., Ontario, probably Toronto.
Thank you
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 25 December 21 10:07 GMT (UK)
Quote :- Run-Kitty would be your best bet for finding that obit, if there is one.

Would you have an obit for Andrew John Hurl who died Apr 22,  1947 in York Co., Ontario, probably Toronto.


A couple of other pieces you may or may not have.

Andrew John Hurl
Birth Date 28 Nov 1886 Ireland
Death Date 22 Apr 1947 East York, York, Ontario. Aged 60 years. Storekeeper.
Father William Hurl - Mother Mary Hurl - Spouse Sarah Corbett
Certificate Number 012526

Mrs Sarah Hurl was the informant - 660 Sammon Avenue.
Burial Mount Pleasant.

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 25 December 21 10:10 GMT (UK)


FIND A GRAVE

Andrew John Earl - 1886 - 1947

Mount Pleasant Cemetery Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/150931308/andrew-john-hurl

Sarah E Corbett - 1887 - 1972

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/150931309/sarah-e-hurl

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 25 December 21 10:14 GMT (UK)


Marriage - A J Hurl 1887 Derry Ireland - married 20 May 1920 York Ontario (aged 33 years)
Father Wm Hurl - Mother Mary Bell - Spouse Sarah E Corbett.
Witnesses Thomas Hurl and Sarah Nevin.

Sandra



Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Sunday 26 December 21 20:54 GMT (UK)
Thomas Hurl's wife was Margaret Ottaway and I found her death on findagrave.
I have learned that Thomas had a sister Sarah Hurl born Jan 25, 1877 who married George Henry in 1904 in Belfast and then emigrated to Toronto where she died in 1960 although I don't have the exact date.
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 27 December 21 10:05 GMT (UK)
Thomas Hurl's wife was Margaret Ottaway and I found her death on findagrave.
I have learned that Thomas had a sister Sarah Hurl born Jan 25, 1877 who married George Henry in 1904 in Belfast and then emigrated to Toronto where she died in 1960 although I don't have the exact date.

Sadly ancestry trees give no sources for the death date.
Shows on a few passenger lists and was widowed by 27 May 1934  (Athenia) when she went to her brother Andrew Hurl at 666 Sammon Avenue. Toronto.  Sister/Law Mrs Ida Hurl, 207 Upper Meadow Street, Belfast. (same address mentioned on other passenger lists)

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 27 December 21 17:41 GMT (UK)
I found Ida Hannah Hurl on the 1911 census on Upper Meadow Street, married to William Hurl, Sarah's brother, But I can't find William's marriage. The 1911 census says marriage is under one year ago.
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 27 December 21 18:16 GMT (UK)
West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
   
Ida Hannah Dickinson. born 1884 and married 8 October 1910 (aged 26 years) spinster - tailoress-
Marriage Place Holbeck, St John and St Barnabas, Yorkshire, England
Father Walter Robert Dickinson
Spouse William Hurt (bad transcription) aged 28 years. Postman. Father William Hurl.

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 27 December 21 18:19 GMT (UK)


William Hurl probate - William Hurl Death Date 21 Nov 1928 Belfast, Antrim, Down, Ireland.
Probate Date 8 Feb 1929 - Probate Registry Belfast. To Ida Hannah Hurl. (widow)  £126   13 s.
Address 207 Upper Meadow Street, Belfast died 21 November 1928 at Royal Victoria Hospital, Belfast.

Sandra
 
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 27 December 21 18:20 GMT (UK)


Ida Hannah Dickinson/Hurl - died 14 June 1974 - Ballyclare, Antrim, Northern Ireland.
(source Anc Tree)

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 27 December 21 18:26 GMT (UK)


A son  William J Hurl 1914–1979

born 1914 -died  5 December 1979 -  Ballyclare, Antrim, Northern Ireland.

A daughter Vera Olive Hurl 1918–1977

born 7 August 1918 - Northern Ireland - married George Henry Wilson 15 May 1918 Northern Ireland - 27 October 2004 Halifax. Nova Scotia.

Vera died 1977 -  Belfast (Down), County Down, Northern Ireland.

Sandra

Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 27 December 21 18:27 GMT (UK)

Canada Obit collection - George Henry Wilson - 1918 Belfast Northern Ireland.
Residence Place Canada, Lower Sackville
Death Date 27 Oct 2004 - aged 86 years Halifax Nova Scotia
Obituary Date:   31 Oct 2004

Father Allan Wilson
Mother Margaret Wilson
Child Olive
Siblings Selena - Joe - John - Emily - Jim

Sandra
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 27 December 21 18:33 GMT (UK)


Ida Hannah Dickinson/Hurl - died 14 June 1974 - Ballyclare, Antrim, Northern Ireland.
(source Anc Tree)

Sandra

https://myhostedapp.com/fmi/webd/anbc_portal?homeurl=https://www.antrimandnewtownabbey.gov.uk.
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 27 December 21 18:37 GMT (UK)
Wow, Sandra. Thank you very much for these updates on William and Ida Hannah, and their descendants. I can hardly keep up filling in the tree.
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 27 December 21 18:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you aghadowey for the cemetery link. I found William and others.
Title: Re: Obit/death record Margaret Watterson Sept 22, 2011 unmarried, in Philadelphia.
Post by: Peggy13 on Monday 27 December 21 19:20 GMT (UK)
I found George Henry and Sarah on the 1911 census on Brookmount Street, Woodvale, Antrim, no children, though married in 1904. So George is alive in 1911, age 38.