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Title: Withers family Leicester
Post by: wheeliebug1969 on Sunday 09 May 21 15:00 BST (UK)
Hi there I am doing a family tree and cannot find the name of the father of
Albert Withers who had a spouse called Sarah Alice Spriggs 1900 in Leicester
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 09 May 21 15:45 BST (UK)
Hi there

Was 1900 the year of the marriage? 

Do you have Albert & Sarah on a census to give his birth year and birth place?
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 09 May 21 15:51 BST (UK)
The marriage was 1926. 

Looks like Albert was born 1904.

You may need the marriage certificate to confirm the name of his father but this family is a possible.

Brother - Joseph
Mother - Edith
Father - Jeremiah

Marriage for Jeremiah Withers & Edith Wainwright in 1900
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: wheeliebug1969 on Sunday 09 May 21 16:01 BST (UK)
All I have is Marriage date 1926
In Leicester

Apparently on England and Wales Registration Index 1837-2005
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 09 May 21 22:07 BST (UK)
This is the marriage registration.  You will need these details should you wish to order a copy of the certificate.

Marriage Sep 1926 Leicester
Albert Withers
Sarah A Spriggs
Volume 7a
Page 717

Marriages are registered in quarters so the actual marriage date may not have been in September itself. 

Another thing you can do is look for Albert & Sarah on the register that was taken in 1939 which should show his date of birth to look for him on the 1911 census.

Hope this helps.






Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 09 May 21 22:42 BST (UK)
The marriage was 1926. 

Looks like Albert was born 1904.

You may need the marriage certificate to confirm the name of his father but this family is a possible.

Brother - Joseph
Mother - Edith
Father - Jeremiah

Marriage for Jeremiah Withers & Edith Wainwright in 1900
I agree with Milliepede.
1911 census https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:X75C-LWY

Marriage for Withers - Wainwright
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP4W-NTWH
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 09 May 21 23:47 BST (UK)
Albert Withers died 1981 Leicestershire - death reg shows birthdate as 4.12.1903 which I suspect should be 4.12.1904 given the birth entry on freebmd
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 09 May 21 23:56 BST (UK)
Birth registration:
Name:   WITHERS, ALBERT
     Mother's Maiden Surname: WAINWRIGHT 
GRO Reference: 1904  M Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 280

To me this suggests he was born 4.12.1903. as birth was registered early 1904.
There is some confusion as the 1939 register has his d.o.b. as 4.12.1904
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: wheeliebug1969 on Monday 10 May 21 12:56 BST (UK)
OK guys I have found his father Jeremiah in 1901 census but the one thing that confuses me is the PRISONER remark in the relationship to head of household? Any ideas?

Here is a link to it
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS4P-QSR
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: Comberton on Monday 10 May 21 13:22 BST (UK)
He is in  Prison in Welford Road, Leicester, from the beginning of the enumeration book.
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: wheeliebug1969 on Monday 10 May 21 15:41 BST (UK)
Thanks for the info Comberton!

Would you also know if there is any way that I can view the prison record for free so I can see what he was imprisoned for?

Thanks again  ;D
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: Comberton on Monday 10 May 21 16:02 BST (UK)
Sorry, I can't help with his prison records. I have looked in the newspapers but nothing coming up.
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: wheeliebug1969 on Monday 10 May 21 17:18 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking anyway, I will do some googling
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: willsy on Monday 10 May 21 20:44 BST (UK)
Have a few Leicester references and on the school age reg. index, his birth is 4 Dec 1903. Also looked for his marriage and it is a register office marriage.

There is a report of an assault by a Jeremiah Withers, shoe hand, Smith's-cottages, Gray Street, 16th Mar 1901 in the Leicester Daily Post 24 May 1901. He was charged on a warrant and ...

had been in jail several days before he was bailed out, and the sentence of the Court now was that he be imprisoned for 14 days with hard labour.

It's quite a long article, noted this bit because of the dates, 1901 census 1 Apr
Title: Re: Withers family Leicester
Post by: willsy on Monday 10 May 21 21:12 BST (UK)
Did look at baptisims and to save anyone looking, Albert's baptism has been transcribed as Wilson, 17 Jan 1904, on my refs as Withers.