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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: bradleycooper on Tuesday 11 May 21 12:13 BST (UK)
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Please let me know if the two men are the same person. TIA
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Hi Bradley,
The second image you tried to post was the same physical size but was a little larger in filesize.
Regards
Sarah ;)
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I would say yes, there are a lot of similarities - ear shape, eye distance, eyebrows, nose; shame we can't see the chin in the younger man or the hairline in the older man.
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I've made them more easy to see and adjusted some angles. They are very similar.
Gadget
Add - welcome to Rootschat :)
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I'd say yes.
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Yes, very similar.
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Sorry, I’m going to go against the tide.
I think the man on the right has much bigger ears. A straight line between the top of them would go above his eyes; with the other fellow a similar line would go below his pupils. The older man also has a much bigger nose, it’s both longer and broader. And they have different shaped faces. The sides of the young man’s face (what the beard doesn’t disguise) are parallel, vertical lines. The older man has a V-shaped face, the sides being like a back slash and a forward slash. I don’t think these differences would be as a result of their different ages or the way they are holding their heads.
Peter
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I'm inclined to agree with Peter. I also get the impression that the younger man's eyes are darker although that may be due to pixilation.
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I agree everything Peter is saying, but don't men's ears get bigger as they get older and eyes (as in GG's point) get lighter in both sexes? I know my eyes are losing the green colour they used to have.
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I think the eyes are the clincher - the right eye (as we look at it) is slightly drooped in both photos. Eyes are the same shape in both photos.
I can see that the old man's ears and nose are larger, but they do continue growing.
The beard and thick hair on the young man probably hide the size of the ears a little, so they look smaller.
Old man's face has thinned due to age and he looks to have lost his teeth which changes the shape of the mouth.
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I've played around with my earlier side by side and overlaid the young man with a 50% opacity of the old man. They match up quite well, given that ears, nose, etc. enlarge with age.
The eye might be lower on the one side because of the angle of the original - will see if I can adjust.
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Impressed with the skills, Gadget!!
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Here's a slight rotate.
(Josey - it's a relief from growing my Ancestry tree :-X )
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Also it's key to note the importance of the different lighting, depth of field, angle of the head, processing and printing, etc. This has an effect on the apparent size of the ears, etc. The hat on the older man also effects the way our eyes percieve things. It looks like a good 30 or 40 years between these photos, and possibly the first one was professionally taken, while the second may not have been. If indeed it is the same man, and I think it likely is. If it isn't there is certainly a strong family connection.
There really is a lot that goes into this forensic stuff, LOL. I find myself wishing I perhaps had gone a different route in my college career. It's quite an interesting field! And look how well we do just with our home computers! Imagine if we had the million dollar equipment that law enforcement and scientific researchers have!
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Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. Impressive forensic work! The older man originally had dark brown eyes, dark brown hair. The old man was always slender, but especially thin at old age. Also the older man’s nose might have been broken.
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Hi Bradley and welcome to RootsChat, it's a yes from me. Ears and nose don't stop growing and become more prominent with age.
Carol