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Is it possible without having a name to search to find out who was recorded as living at the above property during the 1881 census?
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FindMyPast has an address search facility
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Is this the Spring Gardens you are referring to?
5, Spring Gardens, Spotland, Rochdale, Lancashire - if so:-
Head of household is Alfred Chaffer born 1853 Todmorden, Yorks with wife A E Chaffer and four children plus a boarder.
Registration district Rochdale
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 4111
Folio 78
Page 27
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FindMyPast has an address search facility
So does "The Genealogist".
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Yes it is but neither Louisa, Simeon or the baby David Stansfield, who was baptised at Saint Chads in Rochdale in March 1881 were living there on the 1881 census but Joseph Stansfield was living with parents in Todmorden.
It's a mystery where Louisa and the children were living during the 1881 census, it looks like she didn't want to be found for some reason.
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Can you tell us when and where Louisa and Simeon were born? Do I take it that Joseph is Louisa's husband?
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Joseph Stansfield married Louisa Smith dq 1874 Rochdale. Simeon born 1876 mmn Smith and baby David dq 1880 mmn Smith.
John
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Louisa Stansfield nee Smith was born 1850 in Openshaw Lancashire, father James Smith, mother Elizabeth Smith, record found on 1861 census.
Also I can't find Louisa on 1871 census but she is on 1891 living in Heywood, on 1901 living in Todmorden & on 1911 living in Burnley but can't find her death record.
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What is the name of the 10 year old son in 1891?
Do you have a birth? Is it supposed to be David?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7HF4-6MM
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I know AureliaSB was looking for Louisa in 1881 census but putting this down for info only.
A daughter Emma was born 15.12.1878, bap 15.1.1879 and died mq 1879. Parents recorded as Joseph and Louisa, occ Mechanic as per the baptisms of David and Simeon. Re 1891 census believe R is Richard born dq 1883 Clitheroe no mmn. J W is John William mq 1888 Burnley Union mmn Smith. John William bap 25.1.1888 mother Louisa a single women abode 6 Finsley Alley.
John
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Just for interest? In 1891 John William is in the household of a Chritchley Almond. John William appears in 1939 as John William Almond (Stansfield)
John
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The 10 year old son on the 1891 Heywood census is James Moran, he is my Grandfather born in Blackburn in Oct 1878, father Critchley Almond mother Ann Moran.
S Stansfield is Simeon born in Blackburn 1876, father Joseph Stansfield, mother Louisa Stansfield.
R Stansfield is Richard born in Clitheroe 1883
H Stansfield is Hannah born in Oswaldtwistle 1886
J W Stansfield is John William born in Burnley 1888
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Thanks Aurelia. I was hoping the 10yr old would give more information re Louisa in 1881.
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The common denominator here with regard to Louisa Stansfield and my great Grandfather Critchley Almond is that neither of them can be found on the 1881 census whilst my Grandfather James Moran age 3 was living with his Mother Ann Moran on Friday St. in Blackburn on the 1881 census.
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The common denominator here with regard to Louisa Stansfield and my great Grandfather Critchley Almond is that neither of them can be found on the 1881 census whilst my Grandfather James Moran age 3 was living with his Mother Ann Moran on Friday St. in Blackburn on the 1881 census.
There's an earlier thread about Critchley Almond and Ann Moran.
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Yes, it was probably me that posted because Critchley Almond is known to be the father of my Grandfather James Moran who was born in Blackburn in 1878 by Ann Moran but at some time from the early1880's onwards he is known to have been associated with a Louisa Stansfield nee Smith born in Openshaw in 1850 but as I stated in my last post neither of them appear on the 1881 census for some reason but on the 1891 census he is living in Heywood Lancashire with Louisa Stansfield, my Grandfather and other children all with the Stansfield surname.
Just hoping to find both of them on the 1881 census which may answer a few questions l have.
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Yes, it was probably me that posted because Critchley Almond is known to be the father of my Grandfather James Moran who was born in Blackburn in 1878 by Ann Moran but at some time from the early1880's onwards he is known to have been associated with a Louisa Stansfield .... but as I stated in my last post neither of them appear on the 1881 census for some reason but on the 1891 census he is living in Heywood Lancashire with Louisa Stansfield, my Grandfather and other children all with the Stansfield surname.
Critchley Almond is a memorable name.
2 related topics, in case there's any relevant information on them.
Joseph Stansfield
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=848587.0
Critchley Almond
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=808234.0
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Still no sign in 1881 :-\
Lancs opc shows these births (I know they have been mentioned elsewhere but not sure re Charles. Is he the same family, I wonder?)
Charles, 22nd March 1875 (born April 1874) All Saints, Blackburn
Louisa Stansfield, Weaver, Bury Road, Rochdale.
Simeon 2nd July 1876 All Saints Blackburn - Joseph and Louisa
Emma 15th January 1879 All Saints Blackburn - Joseph and Louisa
David 2nd March 1881 St Chad’s Rochdale - Joseph and Louisa
John William 25th January 1888 St Peter’s Blackburn - Louisa
21st March 1889 St Mary of the Assumption, Burnley
Hanna born 17th July 1886 - Louisa
Richard born 24th December 1883 - Louisa
Was Critchley Almond a Catholic? I wonder why these last two baptisms were Catholic?
There is a newspaper snippet 30th May 1884, Todmorden Advertiser
It mentions ‘violently and unlawfully assaulted his wife, Louisa Stansfield’ but does not mention the name in the snippet. It may not be this Louisa.
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Heywood,
There is a newspaper snippet 30th May 1884, Todmorden Advertiser
It mentions ‘violently and unlawfully assaulted his wife, Louisa Stansfield’ but does not mention the name in the snippet. It may not be this Louisa.
James Henry Stansfield on the night 23rd inst. He pleaded guilty. 3 months imprisonment with hard labour. It doesn't make good reading, as this was seemingly not the first time he had violently abused her.
John
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So not Joseph. Thanks John.
I was thinking it might help with placing the children.
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The Critchley Almond name is unique in terms of for the last 20 years of researching him on all family research platforms, none of my family & myself have come across another person with the same name.
With regard to Critchley's baptism, this took place at St. Mary the Virgin C of E (now Blackburn Cathedral) 4 Sept. 1853. son of Richard & Mary.
1891 Census for 3 Peel Lane Heywood-
Critchley Almond & Louisa Stansfield with the children-
Richard Stansfield born in Clitheroe in 1883 & Hannah Stansfield born in Oswaldtwistle in 1886, both baptised on 21 March 1889 as Catholics at St Mary of The Assumption in Burnley.
The other children, Simeon Stansfield (son of Joseph Stansfield & Louisa Stansfield) & John William Stansfield were baptised as C of E.
James Moran son of Critchley Almond & Ann Moran baptised as Catholic at St. Mary's Islington
Blackburn in 1878.
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Is Charles the same family?
Yes, I see the baptisms, just wondered about the change for the later ones - baptisms not children. It just seems odd.
Have you checked the Clitheroe address where Richard was born?
(Clutching at straws really)
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Not sure about Charles Stansfield being Joseph & Louisa's son they didn't marry until 19 Dec. 1874 so she was still Louisa Smith in April 1974, although the child wasn't baptised until 22 March 1875.
Or maybe she had the child with Joseph and waited until they where married before Charles was baptised!
I don't understand the Catholic baptisms, but I know Richard Stansfield was single when he died in Oswaldtwistle in 1903, I have a copy of the death certificate, Critchley Almond was named as his father & my Grandfather was named as his half brother.
Not sure how I can find an address in Clitheroe for Richard
Hannah married James Dawson in Bacup in 1902 in a non- Catholic church.