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Title: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: burton on Sunday 16 May 21 14:41 BST (UK)
please can  a marriage..  be found of Albert Bolton to Agnes Wright  we think in Manchester in about 1930.Thank you.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 16 May 21 14:47 BST (UK)
It is on freebmd.  https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Sep qtr 1932 
Bolton    Albert R   
Wright    Agnes   
Manchester S    8d   17
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 16 May 21 14:52 BST (UK)
LancashireBMD say that the marriage took place at St Thomas, Ardwick.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Girl Guide on Sunday 16 May 21 15:28 BST (UK)
This is probably Albert's birth going by his birth date in the 1939 Register.

BOLTON, ALBERT  REGINALD     COOKSON 
GRO Reference: 1907  S Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 348

Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Girl Guide on Sunday 16 May 21 15:52 BST (UK)
Agnes birth record is more difficult to determine due to the fact that yellowing sellotape is obscuring her birth details.  The year has been transcribed as 1911 so on that basis there are two births which could be her.

WRIGHT, AGNES       SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1911  J Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 726

WRIGHT, AGNES       CAIRNS 
GRO Reference: 1911  S Quarter in HASLINGDEN  Volume 08E  Page 187

All the others for 1911 have second names.
   
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: burton on Monday 17 May 21 18:56 BST (UK)
Thank you so much we are looking for her  mother and father Agnes never told us there names but we believe they were travelers she was my mother -in law.many thanks. Beryl. x
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 17 May 21 21:43 BST (UK)
Agnes birth record is more difficult to determine due to the fact that yellowing sellotape is obscuring her birth details.  The year has been transcribed as 1911 so on that basis there are two births which could be her.

WRIGHT, AGNES       SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1911  J Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 726

Registered in sub-district Ardwick according to Lancashire BMD.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 17 May 21 22:01 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Maiden Stone.  That sorts that out then.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 17 May 21 22:14 BST (UK)
WRIGHT, AGNES       CAIRNS 
GRO Reference: 1911  S Quarter in HASLINGDEN  Volume 08E  Page 187

This birth was registered in Bacup sub-district. (Lancashire BMD) Couldn't find a baptism on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks.
Marriage of possible parents:
 1899 John William Wright & Mary Hannah Cairns, Hyndburn Registry Office or Registrar attended.
Cairns can also be Kearns. It's familiar to me as an Irish surname.


Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 17 May 21 22:20 BST (UK)
Agnes birth record is more difficult to determine due to the fact that yellowing sellotape is obscuring her birth details.  The year has been transcribed as 1911 so on that basis there are two births which could be her.

WRIGHT, AGNES       SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1911  J Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 726

Registered in sub-district Ardwick according to Lancashire BMD.

Possible brothers & sister. Births registered Ardwick. Arthur Alfred 1912; Edith 1913; Ralph 1916.
I searched Lancashire BMD 1900-1920.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 17 May 21 22:25 BST (UK)
If the below is Agnes parents marriage, then they married after she was born

Marriages Sep 1911 
Smith    Annie        Chorlton    8c   1506    
Wright    Arthur        Chorlton    8c   1506
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 17 May 21 22:40 BST (UK)
Possible brothers & sister. Births registered Ardwick. Arthur Alfred 1912; Edith 1913; Ralph 1916.
I searched Lancashire BMD 1900-1920.

Baptisms for these + a sister at St. Silas, Ardwick.
Feb. 1912 Arthur Alfred, parents Arthur & Harriet Anne, father's occupation capstan man
1913 Edith, same parents, father's occupation railwayman
1914 Lilian
1916 Ralph
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 17 May 21 22:49 BST (UK)
I wonder if this is Arthur in the 1911?  Living at 51 Carmen St Ardwick Manchester, South Manchester, Lancashire in the household of Alfred and Elizabeth Smith.

One of their children listed is Harriet Annie. 

Arthur's occupation is Railway Shunter.

Registration district   Chorlton
Registration district number   464
Sub-district   Ardwick
Sub-district number   2
Enumeration district number   20
Series   RG14
Piece number   23721
Schedule   278
Census reference   RG14PN23721 RG78PN1378A RD464 SD2 ED20 SN278
RG 78 piece number   1378
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 17 May 21 23:27 BST (UK)
Girl Guide reply #12. Arthur looks right for the 1911 marriage (reply #10) and father of Alfred, Edith. Lilian and Ralph, baptised at St. Silas.
However, I think he's a red herring. It was me who cast the net with those other Wright-Smith children born in Ardwick.
Is this baptism of Agnes Wright? April 1911 St. Thomas, Ardwick, parents William & Caroline, address Gilmour Street, father's occupation carter. From Family Search. Date transcribed as 29th April; I read it as  26th.
It seems there may have been 2 Wright men with Smith wives in Ardwick at the same time, one in St. Thomas parish and the other in St. Silas.
 
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: burton on Wednesday 19 May 21 15:52 BST (UK)
Thank you  you have been very helpful. Beryl x
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 20 May 21 07:51 BST (UK)
Agnes died in 2007 and is buried with Albert and Mrs Carol Sandra McGuire in Southern Cemetery
Section JJ Consecrated
Grave number 949


From GRO
BOLTON, AGNES    Year of Birth 1911 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q4/2007 in MANCHESTER  (0061J)  Reg 1J004  Entry Number 500614475
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: burton on Thursday 20 May 21 12:38 BST (UK)
Thank you  we think Carols husband  is buried with them as well,many thanks ,Beryl x
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: burton on Thursday 20 May 21 13:00 BST (UK)
we know Agnes had 2  children that died a little girl called rose ann and a little boy called reginald we think they are buried in a Bradford  cematary in bradford lancs with grandparents i dont know how true it is. Beryl x
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 20 May 21 13:56 BST (UK)
The database only shows those 3 in that grave. I will see if I can find the others for you.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 20 May 21 14:02 BST (UK)
In Philips Park Cemetery

Section A Consecrated
Grave 1603

Caroline Wright buried 7th October 1931 aged 62
William Wright  buried 3rd January 1934 (possibly the death recorded in Ardwick aged 64)

Reginald Bolton buried 18th September 1943 aged 0
Rose Ann Bolton buried 7th December 1946 aged 1

Thomas George Shorrock buried 11th February 1957
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: burton on Thursday 20 May 21 17:48 BST (UK)
Thank you so  much that is brilliant what you have found us we cant thank you enought Beryl x
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 20 May 21 17:51 BST (UK)
Caroline Wright buried 7th October 1931 aged 62
William Wright  buried 3rd January 1934 (possibly the death recorded in Ardwick aged 64)

Those names match parents of Agnes baptised at St. Thomas, Ardwick in April 1911 (my reply #13)
If Caroline's age at death was correct, Agnes may have been her last child.

Is this baptism of Agnes Wright? April 1911 St. Thomas, Ardwick, parents William & Caroline, address Gilmour Street, father's occupation carter.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 20 May 21 18:18 BST (UK)
Where were Caroline and William for 1911 census? It was taken on 2nd April.
Agnes's baptism was late April, she may not have been born at the time of the census.
Address in baptism register is Gilmour Street.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 21 May 21 08:07 BST (UK)
Possible marriage for Agne's parents

William Wright married Caroline Smith in 1892 at Chorlton-on -Medlock Register Office or Registrar attended.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 21 May 21 08:16 BST (UK)
Where were Caroline and William for 1911 census? It was taken on 2nd April.
Agnes's baptism was late April, she may not have been born at the time of the census.
Address in baptism register is Gilmour Street.

On the Baptism record it says that Agnes was born on April 10th

Baptism
St Thomas Ardwick
April 26th 1911
Agnes
Parents William and Caroline Wright
Address 9 Gilmour Street
Occupation Carter
Ceremony performed by J W Wragg
When born April 10th
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 21 May 21 08:28 BST (UK)
The Wright family were not at 9 Gilmour Street on the 1911 census
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: burton on Saturday 22 May 21 19:24 BST (UK)
Thank you for all you have found for us. Beryl x
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 23 May 21 14:18 BST (UK)
It's satisfying to get a result and to be appreciated.  :)
1921 census should be released next year. Agnes will be on it as a 9 or 10 year-old, hopefully with her family.
Title: Re: mrriage of albert bolton to agnes wright in 1930 ish
Post by: burton on Sunday 23 May 21 18:34 BST (UK)
Thank you x