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*Now Completed, many thanks*
Please could I request a look up to find 1901 Census details for my mum’s grandmother (for my mum who is 90)
Her name was Violet Florence Garner, date of birth 17 September 1880, birthplace Wolverton, Bucks.
I’d be very grateful if anyone could find her in 1901.
If it helps, her father was William Garner, coach maker/body builder and mother was Elizabeth Emma, living in Wolverton.
With thanks.
KateW.
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1901 census Midland Station Sheaf Street Sheffield Yorkshire.
RG13 Piece 4368 Folio 64 Page 36
Harry Burgon 34
Emily Burgon 33
Darel Burgon 5
Susannah Howard 54
Mary E Fisher 31
Nellie Spinkins 21
Jane A Cooke 22
Maude Danille 20
Edith Wright 20
Amy Wallis 24
Annie Simpe 24
Violet F Garner 20 born Wilston, Berkshire. Attendant.
Elizth Houston 27
Mable Lomkin 25
Mary Mason 19
Vate Cloudertey 19
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TZ-18S
Sandra
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She is with husband on 1939 register--just for info.
Also your post heading--need to wait 900 years for that census :)
John
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Birth registered as Violetta :)
GARNER, VIOLETTA FLORENCE mmn AUDLEY
GRO Reference: 1880 Dec Quarter in POTTERSPURY Volume 03B Page 27
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England Select Marriages - Name: Violet Florence Garner 1881 and aged 22 years
Marriage Date 01 Aug 1903 Wolverton, Buckingham.
Father William Garner
Spouse Frederick Adams
Sandra
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http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk
I can't get full link to attach but marriage for Violet in 1903 mentioned previous post was at St George the Martyr, Wolverton, according to Marriage Locator.
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She is with husband on 1939 register--just for info.
Also your post heading--need to wait 900 years for that census :)
John
Thank you John, fat fingers I think, I’ve modified the date 🙄
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http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk
I can't get full link to attach but marriage for Violet in 1903 mentioned previous post was at St George the Martyr, Wolverton, according to Marriage Locator.
Thank you very much for this information.
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1901 census Midland Station Sheaf Street Sheffield Yorkshire.
RG13 Piece 4368 Folio 64 Page 36
Harry Burgon 34
Emily Burgon 33
Darel Burgon 5
Susannah Howard 54
Mary E Fisher 31
Nellie Spinkins 21
Jane A Cooke 22
Maude Danille 20
Edith Wright 20
Amy Wallis 24
Annie Simpe 24
Violet F Garner 20 born Wilston, Berkshire. Attendant.
Elizth Houston 27
Mable Lomkin 25
Mary Mason 19
Vate Cloudertey 19
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TZ-18S
Sandra
Thank you Sandra.
Is there any indication as to the address/residence? Are all these people living together?
Violet’s family were all railway workers so it seems possible that it could be our Violet, although the birth place is wrong. Do you think Wilston, Berks and Wolverton, Bucks may have been confused in the reading?
Thanks KateW.
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You are welcome Kate. :)
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1901 census Midland Station Sheaf Street Sheffield Yorkshire.
RG13 Piece 4368 Folio 64 Page 36
Harry Burgon 34
Emily Burgon 33
Darel Burgon 5
Susannah Howard 54
Mary E Fisher 31
Nellie Spinkins 21
Jane A Cooke 22
Maude Danille 20
Edith Wright 20
Amy Wallis 24
Annie Simpe 24
Violet F Garner 20 born Wilston, Berkshire. Attendant.
Elizth Houston 27
Mable Lomkin 25
Mary Mason 19
Vate Cloudertey 19
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TZ-18S
Sandra
Thank you Sandra.
Is there any indication as to the address/residence? Are all these people living together?
Violet’s family were all railway workers so it seems possible that it could be our Violet, although the birth place is wrong. Do you think Wilston, Berks and Wolverton, Bucks may have been confused in the reading?
Thanks KateW.
Places of birth can get distorted which is probably what happened here. Midland Station Sheaf Street Sheffield Yorkshire would probably be the railway station.
https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk/trains-stations/at-the-station/station-facilities/shf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_station
Sandra
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Birth registered as Violetta :)
GARNER, VIOLETTA FLORENCE mmn AUDLEY
GRO Reference: 1880 Dec Quarter in POTTERSPURY Volume 03B Page 27
Thank you for this rosie99.
I wonder if you know what ‘mmn’ means with the name Audley? I wondered if it was ‘mother’s maiden name’. For the record, her mother’s maiden name was Case but her paternal grandmother was Audley so I’m a bit confused.
Thanks for looking up the reference though.
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mmn -- mothers maiden name.
Sandra
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1901 census
The first 4 people are a separate household. Mary E Fisher/Fish on FMPast is manageress of a coffee house at Midland Station, Sheaf Street, Sheffield. Violet is a refreshment attendant. Others are attendants or servants.
Birth place looks like Birks Wiloton
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mmn -- mothers maiden name.
Sandra
Thanks Sandra
I really am confused now.
Violet’s mother was Elizabeth Emma Case. I have great details written in the family bible. There is her marriage to William Garner and the birth of all her eight children including Violet Florence. I’m wondering if Violet’s father William, (whose own mother was an Audley) when registering his daughter’s birth was asked ‘Mother’s maiden name?’ and misunderstood and gave his own mother’s maiden name. A bit stupid but possible and would explain the mistake.
Thanks I be again for your time looking for me.
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Marriage
1st August 1903 St George, Wolverton
Frederick Adams 30 bachelor machinist Wolverton Robert Adams carpenter
Violet Florence Garner 22 spinster Wolverton William Garner coach maker
by banns
witnesses William Jessie Brown & Emily Rachel Garner
transcription only on FMPast
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Marriage
1st August 1903 St George, Wolverton
Frederick Adams 30 bachelor machinist Wolverton Robert Adams carpenter
Violet Florence Garner 22 spinster Wolverton William Garner coach maker
by banns
witnesses William Jessie Brown & Emily Rachel Garner
transcription only on FMPast
GARNER, EMILY RACHEL mmn CASE
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in POTTERSPURY Volume 03B Page 31
Elizabeth Emma Case
Marriage 09 Jul 1865 Liverpool, Lancaster, England
Father: John Case
Spouse: William Garner
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Kate, I think that sounds quite plausible that there was just a misunderstanding about maiden name.
I can imagine it might have felt a bit stressful having to go into an 'official' environment and give information at that time and mistakes might have been more commonplace. I think many of the population were illiterate back then too and probably anything to do with officialdom might have felt more daunting experience for many.
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Marriage
1st August 1903 St George, Wolverton
Frederick Adams 30 bachelor machinist Wolverton Robert Adams carpenter
Violet Florence Garner 22 spinster Wolverton William Garner coach maker
by banns
witnesses William Jessie Brown & Emily Rachel Garner
transcription only on FMPast
Thank you very much for this information.
Kate.
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Kate, I think that sounds quite plausible that there was just a misunderstanding about maiden name.
I can imagine it might have felt a bit stressful having to go into an 'official' environment and give information at that time and mistakes might have been more commonplace. I think many of the population were illiterate back then too and probably anything to do with officialdom might have felt more daunting experience for many.
I’m happy to read this, it was what I was thinking too.
Thank you so much for your help.
Kate.
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Thank you all for your help and for taking the time to look up information for me. I’ve given mum lots to read through and she’s delighted. It’s also brought back many memories of her grandmother and great aunts.
This is such a helpful group 👍.