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Title: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: turramurra on Sunday 16 May 21 23:07 BST (UK)
A strange request please for a person searching ancestry of PLUSS family in Switzerland/Germany

Rickarde Gerard Pluss

 A descendant is in Australia but who were they and where did the name originate?

This may be in the too hard basket   a challenge for today perhaps.

Turramurra
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 17 May 21 01:25 BST (UK)
What timescale?

Several entries for Richard G Pluss show up in Colorado.  Is it definitely Rickard?
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: turramurra on Monday 17 May 21 06:20 BST (UK)
Thank you CaroleW for reply

Timescale is unclear as yet.
The grandson(about 30) is in Australia. As he is living no reference can be made but I can find out whether Rickarde is his grandfather or father.
I have looked on Ancestry but no clues...
There is supposed to be a  town/village called PLUSS but I have searched in vain for that in Switzerland.
There is an umlaut over the U in Pluss.
Thank you
Turramurra.
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 May 21 08:10 BST (UK)
shouldn't take you long to sift through these ....lol

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=pluss&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Switzerland&country__0__=CHE&region__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: pb_devon on Monday 17 May 21 08:17 BST (UK)
A guide to the origin of many Swiss surnames is here https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/famn/index.php
Plüss comes from Canton Aargau, but could be from other places or countries.
My search of Swiss placenames is also negative, but Svenja may be along later to add her comments.
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 May 21 08:20 BST (UK)
this lady is born 1580 in Langethal,Berne ,Switzerland - married in 1599 in Langenthal ,Berne ..
I presume Langethal is a small village ?
https://gw.geneanet.org/ejf?n=pluss&oc=&p=elisabeth

todays population - 15,000
https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TcwNsq2tDRg9OLKScxLT80ryUjMAQBJmwb0&q=langenthal&oq=langenthal&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46j0j46i175i199l2j0l2j46i175i199j0l2.11309j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: turramurra on Wednesday 19 May 21 06:03 BST (UK)
Thank you to all who have contributed to the PLUSS place and hopefully ancestors...
It is a mystery to me from far away Australia how those kind people from rootschat can find small needles in huge haystacks!!
I am fascinated by the help that rootschat offers...
What a team
THANK YOU
but I need to be searching the ancestors and with some digging they will come to light.
Turramurra
(fine and bright Autumn here)
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: TreeSpirit on Monday 24 May 21 06:34 BST (UK)
This may be in the too hard basket   a challenge for today perhaps.

Not hard when you have a look at the many online details for dad:

Ernest PLÜSS b abt 23 or 25 Apr 1902 Vordem(n?)wald, Switzerland, d 26 May 1986 NSW (son of Fritz and Anna)
X 27 Dec 1927 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/164455068
Mary Eileen POWER b 26 Sep 1905 Australia, d 28 Dec 1984 NSW (daughter of Cyril and Catherine)
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This couple had 2 sons
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: pb_devon on Monday 24 May 21 08:27 BST (UK)
The place mentioned by TreeSpirit is Vordemwald.

This may be nothing to do with your Plüss family, but have a look at this thread on GENEAL-FORUM: https://www.geneal-forum.com/phpbb/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5139&p=88372&hilit=Plüss#p88372.  Our very own Svenja contributed.
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: turramurra on Wednesday 26 May 21 08:04 BST (UK)
Thank You so much Treespirit
I had forgotten about TROVE

I will be able to use this research
Also thanks to pb_devon for your information.

Turramurra
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: Svenja on Sunday 30 May 21 14:00 BST (UK)
Hi

If Rickarde (or Richard) Gerard Pluss lived in Australia, the first step should be to search all documents about him in Australia (passenger manifest, naturalisation, marriage and death record or death notice in the newspapers).

If some of this documents mention his place of birth or place of origin, you can search in the churchbooks of this place. Places of origin for Plüss in the Canton Aargau, Switzerland are Vordemwald and Murgenthal. Microfilms of the churchbooks of the Canton Aargau (catholic and evangelic) are held at the State Archives of the Canton Aargau and are not available online.

Vordemwald belonged to the parish of Zofingen.

Genealogical Research in the Canton Aargau, Switzerland
https://www.ag.ch/de/bks/kultur/archiv_bibliothek/staatsarchiv/benutzung_recherche/familienforschung_1/familienforschung.jsp

Churchbooks at the State Archives of the Canton Aargau
https://www.ag.ch/de/bks/kultur/archiv_bibliothek/staatsarchiv/bestaende_sammlungen/kirchenbuecher/kirchenbuecher.jsp

Regards
Svenja


Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: turramurra on Tuesday 01 June 21 22:51 BST (UK)
Thank you Svenja,
Translations in English,
Are they available?

It is wonderful to have such generous researchers!!

Always rootschat is a great support...
Christine,
Turramurra
Title: Re: Rickarde Gerard PLUSS could be from Switzerland.
Post by: pb_devon on Wednesday 02 June 21 07:11 BST (UK)
Have a good read of the familysearch wiki on Switzerland https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Switzerland_Genealogy
Useful guide to the subject and also covers each Canton.