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I've got a mystery here and I need all the help I can get.
My ancestor Elizabeth Anderson was born 1842 (I can't find the exact date) in St Giles, Durham, England to Luke Anderson and Jane Whitfield. She then marries John Murrey Hindshaw at Christ Chruch, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England. She has a daughter in 1862, a son in 1864 and another daughter in 1868. Then she disappears. In the 1871 census she is not recorded living with her husband and kids (I thought she maybe died but the marital status for her husband says married). Same thing happens with the 1881 census of her husband and kids. But then when the 1891 census comes out it says that her husband is widowed. So she died sometime between 1882 and 1891... Where did she go after the birth of her last child (which was in Gateshead, England)? And when did she die?
Any help is very much appreciated! Thank you!
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There is an Elizabeth Hindshaw, married, 29 b. Durham working as a domestic servant in Kensington London in the Mitchell household. A/try have her entry indexed as Hindshan (with a correction).
Monica
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Some inaccuracies re birthplace but this is from a tree on Ancestry
When Elizabeth Anderson was born in July 1840 in Wylam, Northumberland, her father, Luke, was 51, and her mother, Jane, was 43. She married John Murray Hindshaw on 7 January 1861 in Tynemouth, Northumberland. They had four children during their marriage. She died in 1891 at the age of 51.
HINDSHAW, ISABELLA HEPPLE mmn ANDERSON
GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 935
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Some inaccuracies re birthplace but this is from a tree on Ancestry
When Elizabeth Anderson was born in July 1840 in Wylam, Northumberland, her father, Luke, was 51, and her mother, Jane, was 43. She married John Murray Hindshaw on 7 January 1861 in Tynemouth, Northumberland. They had four children during their marriage. She died in 1891 at the age of 51.
Wylam would have been in Hexham RD. The maiden surname for this Elizabeth Anderson was Gray.
My ancestor Elizabeth Anderson was born 1842 (I can't find the exact date) in St Giles, Durham, England to Luke Anderson and Jane Whitfield.
What is the source for this information please? This birth would have been in Durham and Lanchester Registration District at the time and the only Elizabeth I can find there was born in the last q 1841, mother's maiden surname Snowdon.
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When Elizabeth Anderson was born in July 1840 in Wylam, Northumberland, her father, Luke, was 51, and her mother, Jane, was 43. She married John Murray Hindshaw on 7 January 1861 in Tynemouth, Northumberland. They had four children during their marriage. She died in 1891 at the age of 51.
Or an alternative scenario also from an Ancestry tree :-X
When Elizabeth Anderson was born in July 1840 in North Shields, Northumberland, England, her father, Luke, was 32, and her mother, Jane, was 28. She married John Murray Hindshaw on January 7, 1861, in her hometown. They had three children during their marriage. She died in 1891 at the age of 51.
The said tree gives two different places of birth: Wylam and North Shields. and then links to a census in 1851 which states she was born in Durham St Giles.
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1841 Luke and Jane Anderson in Durham St Giles.
Son Thomas, daughters Lucy and Sarah.
Luke is a Drayman
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBH-MS5
1851 in South Shields
Luke Anderson now a Master Brewer, born Tanfield
Daughter Elizabeth is 9
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVS-255
Various newspaper announcements in January 1861
Merging them together
At Tynemouth Parish Church, on the 7th inst., by the Rev. Mr Thompson, Mr John Murray Hindshaw to Miss Elizabeth, third daughter of Luke Anderson, brewer, Durham (late of this city, Durham Chronicle)
1861 census in Winlaton
Luke Anderson, born Tanfield, now an Ag Labourer!
Two more children
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-892X-48Q2
the only Elizabeth I can find there was born in the last q 1841, mother's maiden surname Snowdon.
Birth registrations of Sarah, Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Luke, and youngest son John George William have mother's maiden name Snowdon
Jane, 9 in 1861, born South Shields
Possible?
ANDERSON, JANE
Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITFIELD
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS UNION Volume 24 Page 246
Baptism of 17 Aug 1851, St Hilda
Jane
Daur. of Luke + Jane Anderson
Abode So Shields
Father a Brewer
Born 16 July
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XC63-J3
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Marriage allegation dated 15 Nov 1833
Luke Anderson, of Low Woodside, Parish of Lanchester, Farmer
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Jane Whitfield, of Whitesmocks, Chapelry of St Margaret, Durham
Both 21+
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SJQ-3VH
Marriage at Chapelry of St Margaret, 16 Nov 1833
BT, nicely written
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6Q17-3BJ
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In the census, the birthplace of Jane Anderson, wife of Luke, is Witton-le-Wear, circa 1812/3
Snowdon activity there.
Is this connected to anything? :-\
Marriage, 16 May 1821, Witton-le-Wear
George Snowdon + Jane Whitfield
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6L83-QDW
1841 in Lanchester
George Snowden 50 Farmer
Jane Snowden 50
Daughters Lucy, 15, Mary, 14, Sarah, 10
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBD-5BB
1851 in Lanchester
George Snowden Head Widr 63 Ag Lab, born Witton le Wear
Mary Snowden Daur 25 Lanchester
Sarah Snowden Daur 19 Lanchester
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJR-VYM
George still alive in '61
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M78H-68C
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Baptism at Lanchester, 16 October 1831
Sarah
Daughter of George + Jane Snowdon
Abode Low Woodside
Father a Farmer
Born 26th April 1831
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1Z3-BJK
Marriage allegation dated 15 Nov 1833
Luke Anderson, of Low Woodside, Parish of Lanchester, Farmer
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Jane Whitfield, of Whitesmocks, Chapelry of St Margaret, Durham
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And no Elizabeth Hindshaw death in 1891 - wonder how the tree owner came up with that date ::)
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An interesting snippet in the Newcastle Daily Chronicle 5th October 1869.
Notice. - John M Hindshaw, 73 Chandless Street, Gateshead, will not be answerable for any debt or debts that his wife, Elizabeth Hindshaw, may contract after the date of this notice. 5 October 18??
(last two numbers illegible but presumably 1869).
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And no Elizabeth Hindshaw death in 1891 - wonder how the tree owner came up with that date ::)
Probably only because husband John showed as a widower on the 1891 census ::)
Monica
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How disappointing to have no response at all from abburggraf :-\
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So sorry for the lack of reply... it took me a while to know what to click on. I am not the most tech savey. Thank you all for the responses! Wow! It was amazing finding Elizabeth in the 1871 census in the Mitchell Household and also learning about the newspaper clipping that mentions a possible debt she went to fulfill. I wonder why she doesn't show up in any census in 1881 since on her husband's census it says he is still married but she is not living with them (he is not marked widowed until 1891 like JenB mentioned). So now the mystery lies in finding if she dies as a domestic servant between 1882 and 1891...?
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Some inaccuracies re birthplace but this is from a tree on Ancestry
When Elizabeth Anderson was born in July 1840 in Wylam, Northumberland, her father, Luke, was 51, and her mother, Jane, was 43.
She married John Murray Hindshaw on 7 January 1861 in Tynemouth, Northumberland.
They had four children during their marriage.
She died in 1891 at the age of 51.
Wylam would have been in Hexham RD.
The maiden surname for this Elizabeth Anderson was Gray.
For info.
1841 Piece: 820 Folio: 34 Page Number: 14
ANDERSON
Luke 50 coal miner
Jane 40
Thomas 20 , coal miner
John 15, coal miner
Isabella 14
Jane 12
Ann 12
Sarah 6
Margaret 9
Luke 4
ELIZABETH 1
From GRO indexes her brother's birth entry showing mmn
ANDERSON, LUKE mmn GRAY
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE UNION Volume 25 Page 320
Luke Anderson Birth 28 Dec 1837
Baptism 28 Jan 1838 Gateshead, Durham
possible 1820 marriage entry of parents
Luke ANDERSON to Jane GRAY
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLZS-XZJ
added - think the above Elizabeth Anderson born c1840 from 1841c married Thomas TODD
Elizabeth Anderson age 21
Marriage 17 Jun 1861 Gateshead, Durham
Spouse: Thomas TODD age 21
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... and also learning about the newspaper clipping that mentions a possible debt she went to fulfill.
It is not necessarily that she had incurred a debt but simply a husband putting up a public notice that he will not be responsible for any debt she may incur now or in the future.
Divorce was pretty rare in those days so this action by the husband John was not uncommon.
Elizabeth Anderson may have met someone after 1871 and passed herself off as married to this other person. I mention this because her death, as and when it happened, may have been registered under another surname. Hard to say isn't it :-\
Monica