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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: rsel on Saturday 22 May 21 07:19 BST (UK)
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I might have missed this being posted already, but just gone into my match list and they have changed the layout again. Instead of the view match button on the right of the list, i get a heading saying 'Do you recognize them?' and then two buttons yes/learn more. When you click 'yes', you get the option to confirm the relationship (i.e. 1st cousin, 2d cousin, etc), and selecting the actual relationship listed by the name (i.e. 2nd-3rd cousin, becomes 2nd cousin). It also looks to have changed the label on the 'view match' screen (as well as giving the option to edit).
Richard
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I've seen chats about this on Facebook genealogy pages, but i dont have it yet myself - ie still the old format!
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Something else to look forward to, or not!
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I got it this morning. I have thousands of matches as I imagine does everyone else. Either I know who they are and where they fit in anyway or I don't and with the overwhelming majority of them I don't. It's a complete waste of time and utterly useless as far as I can see. Sadly it isn't the first "enhancement" that has left me wondering why they bothered.
Seeing where the centimorgans match would be far more useful. Other companies seem to be able to do it with ease.
More colours for grouping matches would also be a real improvement.
Another gripe is that their sweet little green leaves can be totally misleading. I got the suggestion for one match that she was descended from someone who I knew died as a child. The name was right for the match to be on her mother's side but it turned out to be on her father's side...
I'm sure they mean well but if I was marking their exam paper it would be a very definite "could do better".
Rant over!
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I like it because I can now see the exact distance of relationship without having to go into the tree. It doesn't go past 5th cousin but I have added all those relationships to the note so I can see them too.
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I like it because I can now see the exact distance of relationship without having to go into the tree. It doesn't go past 5th cousin but I have added all those relationships to the note so I can see them too.
I agree, i was also putting the 'real' relationship as a note, to save going to the tree.
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It's a complete waste of time and utterly useless as far as I can see. Sadly it isn't the first "enhancement" that has left me wondering why they bothered.
I don't agree that its a complete waste of time, as it does have minor benefits, at least for what i used to have to do via notes :-) But i do agree with most of the rest of your post, there are a lot of enhancements that i wish they would actually do, that could seriously help with trying to confirm the family links, my top picks would be 'rejecting invalid common ancestor links/thrulines', and a chromosome browser :-)
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It popped up this morning
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I got it this morning, I guess it could be useful for people who have just done their DNA , as far as I am concerned it merely duplicates what I had already done using grouping and notes, there are indeed far more useful things they could have done - like increasing the number of colours you can use for grouping but never mind - they have previously introduced far more irritating 'improvements'.
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This doesn't work well at all when your parents are distantly related. My mother has tested but my father died years ago. People that match through both of my lines all show as maternal matches and I can't change those that should be paternal. Also, I can't see a feedback link to point this out to Ancestry.
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I had this yesterday - it didn't tell me or help me with anything as I had already colour coded and added notes to those I knew!
I'm not sure why they did it ::)
Add - Gail - you can select 'both lines' in the first selection
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I had this yesterday - it didn't tell me or help me with anything as I had already colour coded and added notes to those I knew!
I'm not sure why they did it ::)
Add - Gail - you can select 'both lines' in the first selection
Yes you can, but for those matches where Ancestry automatically made those matches on my mothers side assigned to to Maternal, you can't change them. The only ones I can assign to either is where Ancestry hadn't assigned to maternal.
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Gail~
Are you referring to Thrulines/Common Ancestors as the new matches option doesn't automatically assign shared matches to either line as far as I can see. It is leaving you to assign, as in my snip.
Gadget
add - unless one of your parents has been tested too.
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Yes Gadget my mother has tested which is why I have a lot of matches already assigned to maternal, but some of them are both and some closer to my paternal side. My Mum and Dad were second cousins.
I've also noticed that one of my matches not assigned to maternal (Mum doesn't match him), but is equally related to both, if I assign him to both the only option for relationship is "distant relation", but if I assign to either paternal or maternal only, I can then select fourth cousin. Weird
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Can you not override the relationship with the new facility?
I've just checked with one of the other tests that I have access to and see that if only one parent has been tested, the person is linked to that line! In this case, only the mother has tested so her son was allocated to the maternal line.
It seem a big fault in the system. I'd get in touch with them if I were you as they should have tested for this possibility in the testing stage of this facility.
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Yes I think I will try to contact them because it is not only a big issue for me, but I am sure it will be a big issue for others and they should be aware of this.
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I might have missed this being posted already, but just gone into my match list and they have changed the layout again. Instead of the view match button on the right of the list, i get a heading saying 'Do you recognize them?' and then two buttons yes/learn more. When you click 'yes', you get the option to confirm the relationship (i.e. 1st cousin, 2d cousin, etc), and selecting the actual relationship listed by the name (i.e. 2nd-3rd cousin, becomes 2nd cousin). It also looks to have changed the label on the 'view match' screen (as well as giving the option to edit).
Richard
May I ask whereabouts you have this option as, as far as i can see i do not appear to have it.
Thank you.
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They seem to be adding it in batches, David. I only got my notice of it yesterday.
When you go to your DNA section, it will come up as a new facility when they've added it.
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They seem to be adding it in batches, David. I only got my notice of it yesterday.
When you go to your DNA section, it will come up as a new facility when they've added it.
Thank you. I will be patient then ;)
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I've been blessed with it now and I'm in the 'useless function' camp in terms of an opinion on it. Can't see what it adds and it makes me wonder if Ancestry is trying to set up a rival to DNA Painter and is getting us mugs to populate the source data. I have to say I lost the will to click 'Yes' after the 10th match. Please can we have a chromosome browser, or more coloured dots, or a lower cut-off than 20cM, or anything else vaguely useful?
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Just t got it for my account but not my mums or aunts
I must say once ive filled it in i.ll find it useful because although i know what line people are from i usually forget what degree if cousinship they are to me .so it will be nice to see at a glance
+ Compare cm amounts of people with same relationship
Even having my aunt and cousin flag up as such rather than close relations feels more user friendly.
I may start with labelling more of the distant ones
If it helps Ancestry data base help future clients thats a bonus.
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Just appeared this morning. Useful in that when you have added a relationship you get a big green button saying 'View match', so you know you have identified that particular person. But it doesn't allow you to do anything else useful, like clustering and comparing chromosomes. I have more information in the colour coded groupings and notes, and will continue to use them.
Overall though, I wish the developers had spent time on extending the shared match and common ancestors / thrulines functions to lower cM levels. I have many distant cousins whom I have identified myself through records and accurate trees on Ancestry which are not flagged up because Ancestry imposes cut offs on cMs and generations.
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Not got yet, but I am with Flemming, - I would prefer all those things rather than what is currently on offer!
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i got the update last night. Must agree with a lot of the comments.I'd been putting the relationship and maternal or paternal anyway.
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Not being able to add a relationship less than 5th cousin is really annoying, as is having to use 'Distant Relationship' or 'I'm not sure' instead. It should say, 'I do know but you won't let me enter it.'
Is anyone else having an issue where hitting the 'Back' key from a match's page takes you back to the main listing page but right at the top rather than the point at which the match features? I'm getting RSI from all the scrolling.
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I wonder if the new owners have something to do with the shortcomings of the DNA relationship value to the customers. Would they be breaking any law if they had a programme that maybe had an algorithm that showed family traits such as short lives, diabetes, etc?
On August 6, 2020, The Blackstone Group, which is a private equity firm, announced plans to acquire the company in a deal valued at $4.7 billion.
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It might be a little early for them to influence this development but it's worth considering for future 'improvements', Rena :)
https://www.blackstone.com/press-releases/article/blackstone-completes-acquisition-of-ancestry-leading-online-family-history-business-for-4-7-billion/
Gadget
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Is anyone else having an issue where hitting the 'Back' key from a match's page takes you back to the main listing page but right at the top rather than the point at which the match features? I'm getting RSI from all the scrolling.
Yes. It started a few days ago. I thought it was my browser.
Really annoying isn't it.
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Slightly away from main topic, but has anyone else noticed their new matches reducing considerably. I usually have close to 90 (that has been quite consistent for months), but in the last three weeks or so it has reduced steadily and today it's 55. I don't know how long they are flagged as new matches - possibly 10 - 14 days?
Of course it could be I'm just running out of rellies.
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Apart from the days that they went online, I'm fairly sure I have never had as many as 55 new matches at once for any of the tests I manage. :(
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Apart from the days that they went online, I'm fairly sure I have never had as many as 55 new matches at once for any of the tests I manage. :(
The number is what appears under groups for new matches. It wouldn't be the number of new ones for each day. I don't know how long Ancestry classifies them as new for. Possibly the total in a rolling fortnight. I seem to have had about 4 or 5 new ones per day for the last few days.
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I think that new matches are for the last 14 days. An alternative that I use is to bring up unviewed. This lists those with the larger shared DNA first.
Add - I've just checked and my new matches = 105!
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Ah, I see now. I've never looked at that feature before. Currently 66. I feel better now, thanks!
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Well, finaly got the new version today! At least I think it would have been today, Rec'd results of 23&Me last week, so spending most of my time on that recently!! Think I looked at my matches yesterday, so must be new today! Now I will go and try it out!
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Well, finaly got the new version today!
Snap. I got it about 15 minutes ago. Fills in a few gaps now all I have to wait for is them to give the breakdown of the cMs I share with the matches - fingers crossed for sometime never ....... ;)
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I got this new facility a few days ago, but am only just checking it out…
I don’t think it adds much for me, because I’ve already colour coded most, and because my late Mother tested, I can see which sides many are on.
I always use the ‘Unviewed’ function to check new matches, but only seem to have a few, very low value ones at the moment.
Romilly.
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I had this yesterday - it didn't tell me or help me with anything as I had already colour coded and added notes to those I knew!
Same - I had already used other features to note where they came from ( when known) and if I dont know a relationship I add location as sometimes something comes up that highlights a possible connection
The other thing I am not a great fan of is the many steps required to resolve it
If I was a new member it would be great
One feature I dont mind - and if they then utilise it to split lines - is the maternal/paternal question