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Title: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 01 June 21 23:48 BST (UK)
I am told that Joseph Watterson/Waterson died in Manhattan in Aug 1962. Would like his obituary if possible to see if it mentions any of his siblings, especially any that had also emigrated. He did have a sister Margaret Helena Watterson that returned to New York in 1935 to 556 West 140 St. but don't know who else may have lived at that residence. Don't know if she married after 1935. Joseph was born 1904 and Margaret Helena 1906.
Thanks for any help
Peggy
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: shellyesq on Wednesday 02 June 21 14:25 BST (UK)
I didn't see an obituary, but the NY City death index gives his date of death as 26 Aug. 1962.
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 02 June 21 14:33 BST (UK)
Did you check to see if Margaret Helena Watterson went back to Ireland ?

There is this record for a Margaret Helen Watterson US Departing Passenger lists
Departure 16 September 1956 New York
Destined to Prestwick Scotland
Pan American Airlines

There is also a death for a Margaret Watterson in Belfast 14 March 1997
Age 91 years
Burial Belfast City Cemetery
Last Known address was Castleview PNH Antrim Road

Rosie
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 02 June 21 14:46 BST (UK)
Also in the same grave for Margaret Watterson City Cemetery Glenalina extension are
John Walterson 1981
Mary Haveron 1993
Don't know if these names are familiar ?

Rosie
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 02 June 21 15:46 BST (UK)
Thank you, shellyesq for Joseph's exact date of death. And thank you, Rosie17 for the info about Margaret Helena. I wonder if that could be Margaret who died in Belfast in 1997. She did have a brother Robert John Watterson who was a chemist and grocer in Belfast in 1939 - wonder if it could be John Walterson who died in 1981. Robert John and Margaret Helena did travel to New York together in 1929 and I believe they had contact throughout the years. I don't recognize the name Mary Haveron. I will look into the death of Margaret and John.
Thank you
Peggy
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 02 June 21 15:53 BST (UK)
I notice also in Belfast City Cemetery is  Elizabeth Watterson, died age 80 which would fit perfectly for Robert John's wife who was born 1894. Maybe Robert John remarried after 1974 to Mary Haveron.
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 02 June 21 16:24 BST (UK)
Yes might be worthwhile checking the death for Margaret to  see what it says 
The age would fit it with your Margaret Helena Watterson's  birth year
I don't see any records in New York

Rosie
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 02 June 21 16:41 BST (UK)
I have written to Belfast City Cemetery with enquiries about Margaret Watterson, John Walterson, and Elizabeth Watterson, whose ages at death all fit with date of birth. Elizabeth was Robert John's wife and there is an Elizabeth in another section of the cemetery who died 1974 age 80 which age fits her dob of 1894. Here's hoping to find out something about them all.
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 02 June 21 17:35 BST (UK)
This looks like the Elizabeth Watterson age 80 last place of residence
29,Millisle Road Donaghadee
Also in lair G1 170 are
Annie Martin Watterson 1945 Age 77years
Thomas Webster 1935 Age 94 years
Thomas Webster 1941 age 58 years
Elizabeth Webster 1931 age 84 years

Rosie
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 02 June 21 17:38 BST (UK)
Robert John’s wife Elizabeth’s maiden name was Halliday  so this doesn’t really sound like her but we shall see.
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 03 June 21 14:42 BST (UK)
Hi Peggy you might have this as I know Sandra has done a lot of work on the family
Alexander Watterson age 20 single place of birth Magherafelt father Joseph Watterson Lisnamorrow
Arrival date 15 February 1921 New York ship Columbia
Going to a cousin Archie Pattison Benardoville New Jersey
Also on the same ship is a Lena and Agnes Pattison

US Veterans Death file
Alexander Watterson birth date 8 June 1900 Ireland
Death 16 December 1976

Alexander Watterson age 76 years
Birth date 8 June 1900
Service date 27 October 1942 -20 September 1945
Interment 20 December 1976 New York
Cemetery Long Island National
Sgt US Army World War 11

Rosie
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Thursday 03 June 21 16:04 BST (UK)
Yes, Sandra is absolutely wonderful and she did find the death of Alexander Watterson and other info about him but I don't recall his travel in  1921 with Lena and Agnes Pattison/Patterson, going to cousin Archie Pattison in New Jersey. I  am looking for parents of those Pattisons as we speak. Alexander Watterson's parents were Joseph Watterson and Margaret Jane Patterson. OK, I have found Lena and Agnes' parents as Robert Pattison and Agnes Cowan and I know Margaret Jane Watterson nee Pattison had a brother Robert John. So there's that connection. Haven't found Archie Pattison's birth.
Thanks for your help
Peggy
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 03 June 21 18:52 BST (UK)
I think the parents for Agnes Lena Archie are Samuel Pattison Sarah Jane Morris
Contact details for Agnes and Lena was mother Mrs Sarah Pattison Ballmackeheaney
Death for their father Samuel 1908 address Ballmackeheaney
Check birth for Archibald Pattison 1899 Magherafelt on Irish records although mothers maiden name is recorded as Wallace

Rosie
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:00 BST (UK)
Members of the 1921 passenger list.

This is Agnes Pattison/Meadowcroft -  U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007

Agnes Meadowcroft [Agnes Pattison]
Birth Date 11 Oct 1901 County Loond, Republic of Ireland - Death Date Dec 1980
Father Samuel Pattison Mother  Sarah J Morris

SSDI - https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:V392-RZR

Sandra



Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:02 BST (UK)

1930 census Barry Avenue Chicago, Cook, Illinois.

Arthur Meadowcroft 29   Head
Agnes Meadowcroft   27   Wife - age at first marriage 23 years.
Beatrice Meadowcroft 0   Daughter

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:XSPK-V4B

1940 census Chicago, Cook, Illinois.

Arthur Meadowcroft 40   Head
Agnes Meadowcroft   38   Wife
Beatrice Meadowcroft 10   Daughter
Joan Meadowcroft 7   Daughter
Richard Meadowcroft 5   Son

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4M4-HQ8

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:05 BST (UK)

Agnes Meadowcroft Naturalization -

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:XSPK-V4B

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:08 BST (UK)


Obit Arthur Meadowcroft - Chicago Tribune Chicago, Illinois
20 Oct 1971, Wed    Page 4

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78878377/obituary-for-arthur-meadowcroft/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:12 BST (UK)
Hartford Courant Hartford, Connecticut
29 Mar 1972, Wed   Page 88

Obituary Archie Pattison -

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78878708/obituary-for-archie-pattison/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:16 BST (UK)
1930 census 65 Street Manhattan, New York, New York.

Archie Patteson   29   Head. Married at 26 years old.
Nancy Patteson 30   Wife. Married at 27 years old.
Jean Patteson 0   Son. Born NZ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X42N-FYK

1940 Clinton Ave New York, Bronx, New York.

Ardie Patteson   41   Head
Nanay Patteson 42   Wife
Jean Patteson 10   Daughter
Samuel Patteson 9   Son

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:KQM7-FNW

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:18 BST (UK)
Nancy Pattison - Birth Date:   24 Apr 1898 - Maech 1984
Issue Year Before 1951 Issue State New York
Last Residence:   06791, Harwinton, Litchfield, Connecticut.

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Thursday 03 June 21 20:20 BST (UK)
you guys are ahead of me, Rosie17 and Sandra. I have found the baptisms of Agnes, Lena aka Helena, and Archibald to Samuel Pattison/Patterson and Sarah Jane Morris.
When Agnes is born, mother is Sarah Jane Morris.
When Archibald is born, mother is Sarah Wallace.
When Lena is born, mother is Sarah jane Morrison - all  the same mother. I found them on the 1901 census in Drumenagh, 1911 in Ballymuckleheany. I have verified that Samuel's father when he married was Archibald Patterson, same as Margaret Jane and Robert John. So same family, making Archie Patterson, and Alexander Watterson cousins. I didn't know about Samuel Pattison previously.
This shows how easily we or I could go astray with both Robert John and Samuel naming two of their daughters Agnes and Helena aka Lena.
It is of note that Archibald Sr.'s wife is Mary Jane Watterson, daughter of Leonard Watterson and the elusive Eliza Martha Martin that we have searched long and hard for, for her death.
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:27 BST (UK)

Lena Kalousek - [Lena Pattison]
Birth Date 9 Dec 1904 Ireland
Arrival year 1921
Record Type Petition for Naturalization - Event Date 10 Nov 1938    New York,.
Court Southern District, New York
Spouse's Name Hubert Kalousek
Children William - 8 November 1930

Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:32 BST (UK)

marriage - Lena Pattison - Marriage License Date 15 Jun 1925 - Manhattan, New York City, New York,
Spouse Hubert Kalonsek - License Number15967

1940 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K7MN-M19


Hubert

The Greenville News Greenville, South Carolina
16 Apr 1991, Tue    Page 21

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78879834/obituary-for-hubert-e-kalousek/

The Greenville News Greenville, South Carolina
6 Jan 1989, Fri    Page 20
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78880019/mrs-hubert-e-kalousek-6-january-1989/

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKVF-9M5

Sandra


Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 03 June 21 20:40 BST (UK)

Death Notice -
Alexander Watterson - Daily News New York, New York
19 Dec 1976, Sun    Page 129

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78880655/alexander-watterson-19-december-1976/

Sandra

Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Thursday 03 June 21 21:33 BST (UK)
Goodness, Sandra, I can't keep up with entering info in family tree. You are fantastic. One of the daughters of Samuel Patterson married John D. Roberts and was living in Brownsville, Texas in 1972 - must be either Margaret or Elizabeth unless I am missing a daughter.
Thanks ever so much
Peggy
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:05 BST (UK)
John W Hall - Marriage License Date 2 Jun 1922 - Marriage License Place Manhattan, New York City, New York.
Spouse Margaret V Pattison - License Number 15014

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:10 BST (UK)

1911 Ballymuckleheany Londonderry

Margaret Patterson   15   Daughter
William Patterson 14   Son
Archibald Patterson 12   Son
Sarah Jane Patterson 40   Head
Agnes Patterson 9   Daughter
Helena Patterson 7   Daughter
Elizabeth Patterson 5   Daughter

1925 census New York.

John W Hall 37   Head
Margaret W Hall   28   Wife
William J Hall 1   Son
Archie Tatterson  (as transcribed) 25   Brother-in-law


1930 census West 143 St Manhattan, New York.

John W Hall   43   Head
Margaret V Hall 29   Wife. Imm 1912
William J Hall 6   Son
Mildred Schnurr 60   Roomer
Fendel F Kennedy 24   Roomer
James Kennedy 17   Roomer
Edward Moore 20   Roomer
James Cowen 21   Roomer
John Corbett 29   Roomer
William Corbett 22   Roomer

1940 West 140 Street Manhattan.

John W Hall   57   Head
William J Hall 16   Son
Nina Zlanco 44   Lodger
Cecelia Blanco 38   Lodger
Lew Hertz 31   Lodger
Mary C Farnum 60   Lodger
George Aloysius Madden 37   Lodger

Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:14 BST (UK)
UK Outbound passenger list

   
Maggie Pattison - 1895 - aged 17 years. Shop Asst.
Departure Date   12 Oct 1912 Northern Ireland, Londonderry -  New York
Ship Name Columbia.

Sandra

Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:17 BST (UK)

Obituary with photograph William J Hall - Wausau Daily Herald Wausau, Wisconsin
27 Jan 2016, Wed    Page A2

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78915994/obituary-for-william-j-hall-aged-92/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:18 BST (UK)


First marriage of Bill (William J Hall) - The Eugene Guard
Eugene, Oregon - 14 May 1950, Sun    Page 27

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78916037/marriage-of-hutchison-hall/

Sandra



Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:25 BST (UK)
John William Hall - 12 May 1888 Ireland died 8 April 1948 (aged 59 years) Bus Driver.
Residence Street Address 102 05 62nd Drive New York
Death Street Address 66 20 108th Street New York City, Queens, New York.
Cause of Death:   Crushed Chest And Crushed Pelvis: Suicide, Jumped From Roof Of Six Story Apartment House
Burial Date 12 Apr 1948 Burial Place Kensico Cemetery
Father's Birth Place Ireland - Mother's Birth Place Ireland
Father John William - Mother Elizabeth William - Spouse Margaret Hall
Informant Margaret Hall - Informant Relationship Wife
Executor Margaret Hall - Executor Relationship Wife - Certificate Number 3443

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensico_Cemetery

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:29 BST (UK)


Falls to death - Daily News New York, New York
9 Apr 1948, Fri    Page 92

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78916171/john-w-hall-9-april-1948/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:45 BST (UK)
New York Passenger List - Lizzie Pattison - 1906 Drumenagh Ireland  - aged 20 years - housekeeper
Last Known Residence Ballymuckle Heaney, Ireland
Departure Port Liverpool, England - Arrival Date 6 Sep 1926 - Arrival Port New York. Carinthia
Final Destination New York, New York
Years in US Permanently - Citizenship Intention Yes
Height 5 Feet, 7 Inches - Hair Colour Fair - Eye Colour Blue - Complexion Fair
Money in Possession 148
Person in Old Country Sarah J. Pattison - Person in Old Country Relationship Mother
Person in Old Country Residence Ballymuckleheaney, Magherafell Co. Londonderry.
Person in US Mrs J W Hall - Sister - 522 West 134 th Street
Mother Sarah J. Pattison - Sibling J W Hall

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:49 BST (UK)
1930 census Glen Cove, Nassau, New York.

John D Roberts 31   Head
Elizabeth Roberts   23   Wife. Imm 1926. AL.
Winifred M Roberts 1   Daughter

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X78V-YWC

1940 census Guessner Ave.  Orangetown, Rockland.

John D Roberts 41   Head
Elizabeth Roberts   34   Wife
Winifred Roberts 11   Daughter
Laura Roberts 9   Daughter

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K31M-DXX

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 08:52 BST (UK)
John Dillon Roberts - 21 May 1898 - 4 June 1985 Richmond Virginia
spouse Elizabeth Patterson Roberts.
Burial Arlington National Cemetery.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q53B-VGNJ

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 09:01 BST (UK)
Laura - daughter of John W and Elizabeth Pattison -    Laura Roberts Siff - 10 July 1930 Weehawken NJ  died 10 February 2016 (aged 85 years) Richmond Virginia
Spouse Alan R. Siff - the sister on the 1940 census is mentioned/with a name

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q53B-VGNJ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KTBS-47S

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 09:03 BST (UK)


FIND A GRAVE  obituary attached.

Laura Siff - 1930 - 2016

Hollywood Cemetery Richmond, Richmond City, Virginia.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/160751937/laura-siff

spouse Alan Richard Siff - 1931 - 2007

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/70026517/alan-richard-siff

Sandra

Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 12:18 BST (UK)
1930 census 65 Street Manhattan, New York, New York.

Archie Patteson   29   Head. Married at 26 years old.
Nancy Patteson 30   Wife. Married at 27 years old.
Jean Patteson 0   Son. Born NZ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X42N-FYK

1940 Clinton Ave New York, Bronx, New York.

Ardie Patteson   41   Head
Nanay Patteson 42   Wife
Jean Patteson 10   Daughter
Samuel Patteson 9   Son

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:KQM7-FNW

Sandra

New York Marriage License - Name:   Jean A. Pattison
Marriage License Date 29 May 1951 Bronx, New York City, New York.
Spouse John E Eseppi - License Number 4421


Daughter - Jean A Eseppi - [Jean A Pattison]  15 May 1929 New Zealand died 27 August 2011 (aged 82 years) Harwinton Connecticut - widowed.
Address 191 BIRCH HILL Harwinton, Litchfield, Connecticut
Father's Surname Pattison.

John E. Eseppi - Birth Date:   26 May 1926 - 1 April 1999
Last Residence:   06791, Harwinton, Litchfield, Connecticut, USA


Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 12:21 BST (UK)


Son Samuel Pattison - 4 March 1931 - September 1973

FIND A GRAVE

Forest Lawn Memorial Park Cypress, Orange County, California.
PLOT   Garden of Protection,Map 3,Lot 8235,Space 1

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/101708478/samuel-pattison

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 12:32 BST (UK)


FIND A GRAVE

Rev John Edward Eseppi and JeanPattison Eseppi

East Cemetery Harwinton, Litchfield County, Connecticut.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/50658844/john-edward-eseppi
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/50658844/john-edward-eseppi

Sandra

Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 12:35 BST (UK)


Hartford Courant Hartford, Connecticut 28 Aug 1975, Thu   Page 22

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78918895/rev-john-eseppi-28-august-1975/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 13:02 BST (UK)


Obit Samuel Pattison - 6 September 1973

Independent Long Beach, California 6 Sep 1973, Thu   Page 55

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/78919495/samuel-pattison-6-september-1973/

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 04 June 21 14:52 BST (UK)
This is an incredible amount of information to wake up to this morning. Thank you so very much Sandra. Rev. Eseppi was certainly having problems with his property on Birch Hill Road. I have to wonder about Jean Pattison being born in New Zealand-was she adopted or something?
I see John D. Roberts was living in Glen Cove, Nassau in 1930. Some member of the Watterson family that we were researching recently died there and I’m trying to remember who. I will be watching for it as I review this family.
Thanks again
Peggy
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 17:19 BST (UK)
pm sent with information re son of Rev John Edward Eseppi !!

California US arriving passenger list

Archibald Pattison - 1899 Magherafelt Ireland. Aged 30 years. Chauffeur.  Nancy Pattison 31 years. Jean Archibald Leslie Walter - 2 months.
Arrival Date 2 Aug 1929 - Port of Arrival San Francisco, California on the Tahiti
Port of Departure  Wellington, New Zealand
Final Destination Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Last Residence New Zealand. Name and address of nearest relative in country whence came:- c/o Norman Bell 49 Thorpdon Quay. Wellington.
Friends name Mrs Hessie Gilmore 5306 Addison Street - (sister in - law of Archie and sister of Nancy. Aunt of Jean

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 04 June 21 18:01 BST (UK)
So, Archie did go to New Zealand. To get baby Jean? To visit Norman Bell? To work?Was Gilmore a friend at Philadelphia?
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 18:24 BST (UK)

Yes, Peggy I was adding info as I deciphered it - Hessie Gilmore was a sister to Nancy.

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls - Archie Pattison (bus driver) and Nancy Pattison - 106 Abel Smith Street.
Wellington. New Zealand.

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 18:38 BST (UK)

1901 census    Drumlane, Tamlaght, Londonderry, Ireland.

Wm George Downing 40   Head of Family (Head)
Hessie Jane Downing 43   Wife
Martha Downing 12   Daughter
Hessie Downing   10   Daughter
George Downing 5   Son
Nannie Downing 2   Daughter
Catherine Downing Daughter
Hugh Williamson 17   Servant

Hessie Downing/Gilmore was the sister of Nancy.

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 18:41 BST (UK)

Isabella H Downing - Spouse:   William T Gilmore

Marriage Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. - Marriage Year  1926
Marriage License Number 527135

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 18:49 BST (UK)
UK Outbound Passenger List

Hessie Downing - 1893 - aged 28 years
Port of Departure Liverpool, England to Philadelphia on the Haverford.  Departure 1st April 1921

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 19:06 BST (UK)
1940 census New York, Bronx, New York.

William Gilmore 39   Head
Hessie Gilmore   43   Wife
William Gilmore 11   Son
Margaret J Gilmore 10   Daughter
Hessie Gilmore 8   Daughter
Janes Gilmore 5   Son

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 04 June 21 19:21 BST (UK)
I am absolutely amazed how you find this stuff. It might take me 100 years if ever I found it. So it looks like Archie did go to New Zealand to work for a while between 1921 and 1929 when he returned with baby Jean.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 04 June 21 19:30 BST (UK)

Archie was on 26 January 1925 New York Passenger List - Cedric. Going to employer Mr C J Ryan, 501 Fifth Avenue, New York.

Sandra
Title: Re: Obituary Joseph Watterson, died Aug 1962, Manhattan
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 04 June 21 19:52 BST (UK)
So Archie was in Benardoville, New Jersey, when his sisters Agnes and Lena emigrated in 1921, also Alexander Watterson. In Jan 1925, he is on the New York passenger list, presuming returning from Ireland - maybe a visit. then he is in New Zealand, returning in 1929. So went to New Zealand between 1925 and 1929. When was he on the Electoral Rolls in New Zealand.? He gets about, in days when travel was not so easy or cheap.
Thanks
Peggy