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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: HappyGoLucky33 on Friday 04 June 21 18:25 BST (UK)
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Samuel Odell (b. about 1860 in Luton) married my x4 great aunt, Mary Ellen Bonson, on 4 July 1887 at Barnsley register office.
In 1891, Samuel and Mary Ellen were living in Cudworth with their daughter, Martha. Samuel was a coal miner and this is the last record I have for him.
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:72PN-CMM)
In 1904, a Mary Ellen Odell married a Thomas Lovekin in Barnsley. This couple may be the same couple that were living together in Seghill, Northumberland in the 1901 census. Daughter Martha now “Martha Lovekin”.
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS9H-QKH)
If this is them then Mary Ellen and Thomas were obviously cohabiting. This makes me think that Samuel may still have been living, hence why Mary Ellen and Thomas did not marry until 1904.
I’m hoping that a fresh pair of eyes may shed some light on what happened to Samuel Odell.
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The birth reg for Thomas Lovekin shows mmn Harbutt
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Thanks, Carole. Is this referring to the West Bromwich registration? I was under the impression that Cannock fell under Penkridge registration district and hadn’t found an appropriate birth registration for Thomas yet. Happy to be corrected though ;D
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The birth reg for Thomas Lovekin shows mmn Harbutt
Don't think that's the Thomas Lovekin in Barnsley. There are previous Lovekin-Harbutt children b West Bromwich dating back to the late 1870s
Marriages Mar 1877 King's Norton. 6c 547
HERBATT Hannah
HERBUTT Hannah
Lovekin Jeremiah
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Just to clarify that I have followed the Lovekins to the 1911 census and they had another son named William (b.1908 in “Moor”, Northumberland). They had apparently been married for 16 years so not sure if I have the wrong couple or if they told a white lie for respectability’s sake.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMV-KLX
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I've tried finding a birth registration for William as well, without much success
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I haven’t found a birth registration for Martha Odell either so maybe Mary Ellen wasn’t in the habit of registering her children’s births!
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Just to help with the timeline, there is an account in the Barnsley Chronicle of 1st June 1895 to do with a court case relating to an alleged assault on a Mary Ellen Odell of Cudworth
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Thank you, Jen, I will take a look!
I have just found the burial of Thomas Lovekin Sr at Earsdon on 16 May 1920. It looks like Mary Ellen married Robert D. Johnson the following year. A Mary Ellen Johnson was buried 30 May 1927 at Earsdon and then a Robert Dawson Johnson was buried 26 May 1934 at the same place.
So the timeline so far is that Mary Ellen married Samuel Odell at Barnsley in 1887. In 1891, she lived in Cudworth with Samuel and daughter Martha. In 1895, she was obviously still living in Cudworth if we assume JenB’s article is ‘our’ Mary Ellen. By 1901, she is cohabiting with Thomas Lovekin in Seghill, Northumberland with daughter Martha and a son Thomas. Possibly returned to Barnsley to get married in 1904. They moved to Earsdon by 1911 with sons William and Thomas. Mary Ellen’s married sister Agnes Smith was also in Earsdon at this time.
So at some point, probably between 1891 and 1896, Samuel Odell either died or he and Mary Ellen separated.
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There is also an article in the Morpeth Herald, 5th August 1899 regarding an alleged assault by a Mary Ellen Lovekin, married woman of Hirst.
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So at some point, probably between 1891 and 1896, Samuel Odell either died or he and Mary Ellen separated.
1896 Cudworth West Yorkshire Electrol Register
Samuel Odell - High Cudworth
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Just a thought There is a Samuel Odell b March 1860 England living with family in Saginaw, Michigan in 1901. Lists his emigration year as 1896
Elisa J Odell 41 b Canada
Samuell Odell 39 b England Fireman
Cora E Odell 10
Ethel M Odell 7
Gertrude Odell 6
Melvin H Odell 1
Kay
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Just a thought There is a Samuel Odell b March 1860 England living with family in Saginaw, Michigan in 1901. Lists his emigration year as 1896
Elisa J Odell 41 b Canada
Samuell Odell 39 b England Fireman
Cora E Odell 10
Ethel M Odell 7
Gertrude Odell 6
Melvin H Odell 1
Kay
If I'm looking at the right man, the original shows 1886 not 1896 for his emigration?
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You are right Jen - sorry re the mistake and looking at him pre 1891 he may have been born about 1857 :-\
Kay
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Just to clarify that I have followed the Lovekins to the 1911 census and they had another son named William (b.1908 in “Moor”, Northumberland).
On the original William's birthplace is actually Shiremoor, which is was in Tynemouth RD. But in common with others I can't find a birth registration.
There are several references to Thomas Lovekin in the Morpeth Herald, 1910 - 1914, it seems he was quite involved in various local activities.
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So at some point, probably between 1891 and 1896, Samuel Odell either died or he and Mary Ellen separated.
1896 Cudworth West Yorkshire Electrol Register
Samuel Odell - High Cudworth
I also have him on the Electoral Register for 1895. He disappears after this.