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According to the 1891 England Census, Samuel James Deacon lives with his wife Hannah. He was born in Watton, Norfolk, England. Civil parish: South Stoneham Ecclesiastical parish: Eastleigh Residence: Eastleigh, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England. He is a shoemaker by trade.
They have two sons Samuel James Deacon born in 1891 and Frank Harold John Deacon 1893. He does not appear in any census before or after. In 1901, Hannah and the sons are together. In 1911, one son remains and Hannah is living with another man.
I am STUCK. I don't know anything about his parents or what happened to him.
Can you help?
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The 1891 census, if I have the correct one, only notes the name James Deacon 36?
Born Norfolk & Hannah 37 born Middlesex, which ties in with the 1901 for Hannah who is noted as married. GRO births & death for the boys you mention.
DEACON, SAMUEL JAMES HAWKINS
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 39
DEACON, FRANK HAROLD JOHN HAWKINS
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 3
Death of Samuel J Deacon junior age 39
Registration District: Isle Of Wight, Hampshire 1931
Colin
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Thank you. I do know this information and have documentation of the family history beyond that point. But I don’t know what happened to Samuel James Deacon Senior - where did he go and where did he die? nor do I know anything about his lineage from Watton, Norfolk... I don’t know anything about his family. I don’t know where to look. I’m at a dead end. There is a Samuel James Deacon that died in Reading Berkshire but he was a butcher and elsewhere in the census of the same year.
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Do you have the birth certificates of the sons mentioned by Colin, if so what information do they give.
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Hi Rosie, I have Registered Birth information for each son.
Samuel James ( Jun qtr 1891 Registration district: Southampton
Volume: 2c Page:39)
Frank Harold Frank Harold J Deacon (Jun qtr 1893 Registration district: Southampton Volume:2c Page:3)
I also have the original Birth Certificate of Samuel James Deacon Jr. It clearly states the names of Samuel James Deacon Sr and his wife Hannah Deacon nee Kearley) and that the occupation of Samuel James Deacon Sr was that of Shoemaker.
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You will need to remove that certificate and type out the details as we are not supposed to post the image in full. That certificate copy was issued in 1985 so not the original ;D
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Hi
So was Hannah Hawkins nee Kearley his mother?
Hannah Kearley married George Hawkins possibly 1870 Kensington?
1871 Census
Portland Road, Kensington
George Hawkins head mar 34 Police Sergant Middlesex
Hannah Hawkins wife mar 22 "
Hannah Kearley mother of wife 62 Annituant Dorset
Amelia Collis visitor 56 "
Same family 1881 but with a son George aged 9 and visitor Amelia Cutts aged 15...Gypsy Road Dairy.Lambeth
There is a Hannah Amelia Cutts mmn Kearley 1866 Kensington
Not sure if all connected and unfortunately no sign of Samuel James
Cathy
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Where does it give Hannah's maiden name as Kearley?
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A small snippet from the Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton)dated 8th August 1891.
Hannah Deacon, a married women, of respectable appearance, carrying a small infant(probably Samuel James junior) in her arms, was summoned for being drunk and disorderly, in the Victoria Road, Woolston, on Monday, and was fined 2s6d and 7s costs-A week allowed for payment.
John
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Kearley not mentioned on the certificate but Spike1952 mentions it in the previous post. Unsure if my post is relevant / or the right family though at the moment.
Cathy
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Where does it give Hannah's maiden name as Kearley?
I also have the original Birth Certificate of Samuel James Deacon Jr. It clearly states the names of Samuel James Deacon Sr and his wife Hannah Deacon nee Kearley) and that the occupation of Samuel James Deacon Sr was that of Shoemaker.
I am confused too :)
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1891 census Weybridge
George Hawkins 58 widower living on own means Enfield (line across age, should be 55)
George Hawkins 19 general labourer Kensington
551/122/6
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Good Questions everyone...
My assumption / proof arises from this data:
***The grandson of Samuel James Deacon Jr has two DNA links to Richard Kearley, Hannah Kearley's grandfather (His 3rd great grandfather.)
***England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 for Hannah Kearley married George Hawkins in Kensington.
Name:
George Hawkins
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Kensington
***1871 England Census: George Hawkins age 34 born in Enfield Middlesex HEAD and Hannah Hawkins age 22 born in Kensington Middlesex wife. MOTHER IN LAW Hannah "Hearley" corrected by another ancestry member to be Kearley and looking at the actual document it is clearly Kearley (no pun intended!) age 62 and born in Durweston Dorset. George is a police sergeant. They live in Kensington, London.
This also fits because her dad died in 1868, leaving her mom a widow.
Hannah does indeed have a checkered past if one accepts the data and connections found! She has a son with George Hawkins in April of 1871. (10 months after their marriage in June of 1870)
***In 1881 Census
George Hawkins HEAD wife Hannah son George and Mother of wife, Hannah Kearley.
#11 Gipsey Road Dairy, middlesex.
George Hawkins is now a DAIRYMAN & their son George age 9
That is the SAME ADDRESS as Hannah's mother's subsequent PROBATE. Money is left to Hannah's brother, Joseph.
(AN ASIDE QUESTION: Why does George Hawkins change a great job and location to move to a lower income areas and a different job?)
Hannah's mother also named Hannah age 72 dies in May 5 1882. Her mother is a puzzle as there is a probate and 1,215 pounds left to her son, Joesph who is Hannah's brother. The address for her is Gipsey-road Dairy Lower Norwood in the county of Surrey. (so that fits) Her son has a large family and lives at 9 Warwich-terrace Warwick-road Kensington in the country of Middlesex. "Coachman the Son one of the Residuary Legatees." (RESIDUARY LEGATEE. The person or persons named in a will to receive any residue left in an estate after the bequests of specific items are made.)
***1891 England Census
George Hawkins
Residence. Weybridge, Surrey, England
Head and Widower son George
George Hawkins: Head lives with son George and is a WIDOWER. "Living on own means"...son age 19 a "general labourer".
Hannah's not mentioned
LOCATION WEYBRIDGE SURREY...
George Hawkins probably lied, saying that he was a widower as there are no death records for Hannah who of course later shows up on Samuel James Deacon Jr's birth certificate as Formerly Hawkins)
So sometime after 1881 census and her mother's death in 1882, Hannah has moved on. She meets Samuel James Deacon and they say that they are married.
1891 Census
1891 Address 296 High Street, Southampton, Hampshire, England
employment Shoemaker (Journeyman) as stated on birth certificate of his son Samuel James born 11 May 1891. (To be a journeyman was to be employed, not independent.)
According to John (here on Rootschat) a Hannah Deacon was arrested and the timeline and location fit as Samuel James was born in three months prior. "A small snippet from the Hampshire Advertiser (Southampton)dated 8th August 1891:
Hannah Deacon, a married women, of respectable appearance, carrying a small infant(probably Samuel James junior) in her arms, was summoned for being drunk and disorderly, in the Victoria Road, Woolston, on Monday, and was fined 2s6d and 7s costs-A week allowed for payment."
Frank Harold John Deacon is born Feb 25 1893. Samuel James Deacon Sr is long gone sometime after June 1892 (to have conceived the boy, Frank - unless FRANK is Mr Bennet's son! I do not yet have any DNA connections to Frank's children and grandchildren, possibly because they have not yet taken a test. Frank died in 1960 in Southampton.
*****1901 Census the brothers are living with their mom and Amos Bennet and their lives go on quite clearly after that as I can easily trace their WWI records and have photos etc.
I conclude that Hannah did not legally divorce Geroge Hawkins nor did she LEGALLY marry Samuel James Deacon or his predecessor Mr Bennett.
-----------My original question remains... to what family was Samuel James Deacon born in Watton Norfolk? He does seem to have travelled about.--------------
As an aside, Samuel James Deacon Jr found work in a Marine shop in Southampton that also supplied out of the Isle of Wight I surmise by addresses as he did move to IOW. Both boys served in WWI (Samuel James had a slight build and though he did receive medals for "Special instances of gallant conduct" spent much time in military convalescence, returning with injuries to his shoulder and arm. His brother Frank on the other hand, much larger in build and stronger served as a SAPPER and was more of a hell raiser). Samuel James worked in the IOW marine shop from 1911 and with a good wife and young family. In 1931, at the age of 38, Samuel hung himself.
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Hi,
About your "AN ASIDE QUESTION" this could explain it :)
Metropolitan Police Pension Registers, 1852-1932
No: 4403
X or Paddington Division
8 Jun 1876
George HAWKINS
late a Police Sergeant. Resigned from this Division on account of Ill health on the 8th day of June 1876. to which day inclusive he has recieved his Pay and is entitlde to a pension of £52.00 per annum commencing on the 9th July 1876.
Age on resignation: 40
Height: 5feet 9 3/4 inches
Hair: Dark brown
Eyes: Dark brown
Mole on back of neck.
When and where born: Enfield, Middx. on the 14th September 1845
Father: George HAWKINS
Mother: Mary HAWKINS
Date of joining the Police: At Scotland Yard on he 3rd August 1857
Particulars of service: 18 years 10 months T Division as P.C. until the formation of X
If injured: None
Married
Next of Kin: Wife
Where he intends to reside and draw his pension: 2 Myrtle Terrace, Myrtle Road, Churchfield, Acton,Middx
Present Address: " "
The image does show his year of birth as 1845 but this has to be wrong as he joined the Police in 1857 and was 40 when he left in 1876, so the DOB should be 1835 which fits all the other info. about George.
Unfortunately it doesn't specify what Ill Health he is suffering from.
You might have seen this alreay, but just in case,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Metropolitan_Police
Regards,
Daisy
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Hi Daisy,
That was so interesting. Also curious as to why he would have become a 'dairyman' in the subsequent census. He had a good pension. Then in the next census he his called a widower and 'living on own means.' Interesting also as he was older than Hannah, born in 1838 in my records -- though you have him in 1835... and Hannah in 1849.
Thank you for this interesting information about the police.
Linda