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Title: Address help please completed
Post by: ugo on Tuesday 08 June 21 13:13 BST (UK)
Please , having been trying for years  to find the address for Alice Coutes, any suggestions
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 08 June 21 16:07 BST (UK)
It's a bit small and goes out of focus if you try to enlarge it.

Can you scan it at a higher resolution,or tell us where it comes from please.

I have found it and saved it as a larger image.
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 08 June 21 16:23 BST (UK)
Is that last word .....Dublin?
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 08 June 21 16:30 BST (UK)
Possibly misheard or mistranscribed, but perhaps Colville Terrace, Dublin?

1879 Dublin street list: https://www.swilson.info/idxcity1879.php?pageno=2
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ugo on Tuesday 08 June 21 16:57 BST (UK)
Thank you Carole,, No it is London could be Dalston area they lived in Whitechapel, Shoreditch, Bishopsgate, the Church is Christchurch Spittfields near Brick lane.
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:09 BST (UK)
There was a Culverton Terrace in Hackney in the 1861 census. Numbers only went up to 27 though.
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:12 BST (UK)
Was she born in 1862? Do you have the birth certificate?

Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: arthurk on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:14 BST (UK)
One problem with a terrace is that sometimes its name appeared on the row of houses on a kind of plaque, but its full address included the name of the street it was on. The street will appear on a map, but any terraces on it may well not be named.

In this case, given that it's not in the parish where the child was baptised so might not be 100% accurate, I wonder if it's a mishearing of Colvestone and therefore connected with Colvestone Crescent, which runs off Ridley Road.
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:20 BST (UK)
I was hoping to find them in 1881 as it's not too far from 1879,but couldn't see them anywhere.

Carol
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:23 BST (UK)
1881 371/30/55

21 Acorn Street Bishopsgate

Alice Contes 19 yrs Shopwoman b Whitechapel

With mother Mary A and sibling Charles E
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:23 BST (UK)
1881 371/30/55

21 Acorn Street Bishopsgate

Alice Contes 19 yrs Shopwoman b Whitechapel

With mother Mary A and sibling Charles E

Well found Heywood. I had no luck earlier with that one!
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:26 BST (UK)
Thank you Carole,, No it is London could be Dalston area they lived in Whitechapel, Shoreditch, Bishopsgate, the Church is Christchurch Spittfields near Brick lane.

As she was born in 1862 and not baptised till 1879,it is possible that she could have been out in Ireland.
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: IgorStrav on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:29 BST (UK)
This is the Charles Archer Coates, dairyman, who was at 135 Wentworth Street, Whitechapel in the 1860 directory?
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: IgorStrav on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:31 BST (UK)
Marriage:
Charles Archer Coutes
Male
04 Sep 1854
Saint John The Baptist,Shoreditch,London,England
Spouse:   
Mary Ann Thomas
FHL Film Number:   589947, 589948, 589949, 590841, 590842, 590843, 590844, 590845, 590846
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:35 BST (UK)
Following up of ArthurK's post, there are a couple of newspaper mentions of Colvestone Terrace, Ridley Road.
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ugo on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:37 BST (UK)
I have researched the family for years, missing them in 1871 census ,  your all on the right track thanks, Colverstone looks good.
Charles was the same.
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ugo on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:41 BST (UK)
Sister Jessie was baptised in February of same year, the address was 46 Wells Road Hackney
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:49 BST (UK)
Do you have a birth for Charles E?
I can’t find them in 1871 either  :-\
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ugo on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:52 BST (UK)
He died before
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:55 BST (UK)
He died before

I mean the one born abt 1866.

Perhaps registered with a different surname?
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ugo on Tuesday 08 June 21 17:59 BST (UK)
Waiting on a certificate, , looking at the family again after a long break,  you find new records when you have a fresh look, thanks for all the help
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 08 June 21 18:09 BST (UK)
Are you able to share the details of young Charles’ birth?
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ugo on Tuesday 08 June 21 18:26 BST (UK)
Have not been able to it, the surname has caused me problems over the years,
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Post by: johnhood on Tuesday 08 June 21 19:16 BST (UK)
Joining in a little late here but I read the address as "Dalston" not Dublin, or do I need to get my eyes tested as I do need to go at some time.

John
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: johnhood on Tuesday 08 June 21 20:31 BST (UK)
1861 census. 269 153 23, Charles, Mary and 2 children


COUTES, MAGDALENE  ARCHER     THOMAS 
GRO Reference: 1856  M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST  Volume 01C  Page 452
   
COUTES, JESSIE  MARY     THOMAS 
GRO Reference: 1859  M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 401

John
Title: Re: Address help please
Post by: ugo on Wednesday 09 June 21 06:07 BST (UK)
Thanks John that's correct,  and thank you to everyone