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Title: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: kerryargent on Monday 14 June 21 04:04 BST (UK)
Looking to find how these two got from Ipswich England to Adelaide sa during the period 06/1915 and 12/1921
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 14 June 21 05:22 BST (UK)
Are you aware that their mother Laura Moss re-married in 1917 to a Mr. R MacDonald?
It is possible they might have travelled to Australia under the surname MacDonald.
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: kerryargent on Monday 14 June 21 06:11 BST (UK)
Thanks had a look at that but problem is they may have travelled with some one as they were both under the age of 16
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: garstonite on Monday 14 June 21 08:10 BST (UK)
well Dora Rose had a good life
I see Dora married Roland Argent 17th december 1921 - so I presume you are a direct descendant .
do you know a lady named Alison Heathorn ?   she has this tree - maybe she has knowledge of when they arrived ?
I wonder why she moved from Mount Barker , South Australia to Tasmania where she died ??

https://gw.geneanet.org/alisontassie?n=moss&oc=&p=dora+rose
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 14 June 21 08:20 BST (UK)
Just putting the birth registrations for reference

MOSS, DORD  ROSE     NUNN 
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in IPSWICH  Volume 04A  Page 1021

Dora married on 17 December 1921 at the Methodist Church Mount Barker in Mount Barker, South Australia, to Rolan (Roland?) Horace Argent.  Her father is Albert George Moss.
 
MOSS, BEATRICE  MAY     NUNN 
GRO Reference: 1908  S Quarter in IPSWICH  Volume 04A  Page 1063

There is a marriage for a Beatrice May Moss on 26 September 1936 at St Cuthberts Church Prospect, Adelaide to a John Albert Lush.

Beatrice's father is given as George Albert Moss.

Parents marriage with father's names the other way round:

Marriages Sep 1904
Moss    Albert George        Ipswich    4a   1865   
Nunn    Laura Maud        Ipswich    4a   1865

I can't see any travel records for when the girls first left.

Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 14 June 21 08:29 BST (UK)
Looks like Beatrice died in 2001 in the Adelaide area.

Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 14 June 21 10:02 BST (UK)
Thanks had a look at that but problem is they may have travelled with some one as they were both under the age of 16
Possibly travelled with parents, who were living in Prospect at the time of Beatrice’s marriage.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/132027781?searchTerm=“moss%20macdonald”
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 14 June 21 10:17 BST (UK)
On board BELTANA departing london 7 August 1924 to Adelaide is Mrs. Laura M MacDonald age 38, and her 3 year old daughter Joan.
Last address in UK - 3 Adelphic Place, Lower Brook St, Ipswich.
No sign of husband on the same ship.
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 14 June 21 10:30 BST (UK)
12th October 1935 LM & BM Macdonald travel on the Oransay from London to Australia - address in England c/o A J Ridley & Son, Ipswich
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 14 June 21 10:34 BST (UK)
On board BELTANA departing london 7 August 1924 to Adelaide is Mrs. Laura M MacDonald age 38, and her 3 year old daughter Joan.
Last address in UK - 3 Adelphic Place, Lower Brook St, Ipswich.
No sign of husband on the same ship.

They arrived from Sydney to London 30 Apr 1924 on the Baradine -address in 2 Adelph Place, Ipswich
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 14 June 21 14:58 BST (UK)
It seems that Joan is Joan Marjorie Macdonald born 3rd March 1920 in North Adelaide.  Parents Roderick and Laura Maud nee Moss.

So one has to assume that Laura went to Australia between 1917 and 1920.
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 14 June 21 17:19 BST (UK)
What was Rodericks occupation.  Was the move to Australia because of that. 
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: kerryargent on Tuesday 15 June 21 01:09 BST (UK)
Thanks for info yes Laura Maud Nunn (Moss) re married in 1917, travelled with Joan in 1924, can’t find Roderick travelling from England from time they where married till when Laura and Joan travelled, found that Beatrice had a twin that died in sept 1909, also do know that Alison has a copy of my tree
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 June 21 08:06 BST (UK)
Do you have the marriage certificate for Laura to Roderick
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 15 June 21 08:29 BST (UK)
Burial of Laura Maud MacDonald, 13 Oct 1954, North Road Cemetery, Adelaide.
Age 71, abode Prospect
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKS-B9RP

With her in grave 3458, cremated ashes of Roderick MacDonald, 4 May 1973. Cremated 10.4.73
Age 84, an abode in Prospect
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSK9-BWS8-B

Headstone on BillionGraves.

Could Roderick have been born in Adelaide in 1888, the son of John MacDonald? :-\
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/129040491
Title: Re: Dora rose Moss and sister Beatrice may Moss
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 15 June 21 09:01 BST (UK)
If there's nothing else, mention a 26 year old Roderick McDonald, Engineer, arriving London on the Orontes, 6 June 1914. Port of embarkation Adelaide.
Country of last/intended future permanent residence, Australia/England.