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Title: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: Jessies Mum on Sunday 20 June 21 09:30 BST (UK)
Arthur (Art) Edward Satherley died in Fountain Valley, Orange, California in 1986.  His obituaries state he was survived by his wife Harriet and daughter Judi and her husband - surname Rieck.  Harriet is Harriet Helen Melka who passed away in 1994.

I can't find anything with Judi's surname being Satherley however the birth of her children give her maiden name as Johns! 

Can anyone help shed any light for me with this mystery please?
Thanks
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 10:22 BST (UK)
first wife - Gladys Jeanette Dewick/Satterley born 19 August 1895 died 1965

Obituary mentions her husband as Arthur E Satterley.

The Oshkosh Northwestern Oshkosh, Wisconsin
20 Feb 1965, Sat    Page 13

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79904973/obituary-for-gladys-j-satherley-aged/

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22321450/gladys-satherley

Sandra

Added Arthur Edward Satherley -  1986 (aged 96–97)

Fountain Valley, Orange County, California

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/70939551/arthur-edward-satherley

Perhaps Arthur married Harriet after the death of his wife in 1965 ?
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 10:46 BST (UK)
There are a couple of marriage entries..............
Was Judi married previously ?

Aged 30 years on both records. Born 1938

Judi Harres - 9 March 1968 LA  to Leroy E Rieck (both deceased now)

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:V68G-L26

and Judi Johns to Leroy E Reick - 9 March 1968 LA.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:V68P-Z8P

The twins  J and T were born in 1962 which might indicate another marriage ?
The son D was born 22 April 1969

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 10:49 BST (UK)


Obituaries -

https://obits.ocregister.com/obituaries/orangecounty/obituary.aspx?n=judi-b-rieck&pid=153165376&fhid=4906


https://oconnormortuary.com/obits/judi-b-rieck/

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 11:07 BST (UK)
Discrepancy with the birth year -    Rieck - Birth Date 16 Feb 1931 - 15 August 2011
Last Residence 92646, Huntington Beach, Orange, California.
Issue Year Before 1951 Issue State California.

Name Judi Rieck - Birth Date 16 Feb 1939
Address 5450 Castle Bend Way Residence Place Yorba Linda, California

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2SWF-HSX

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: Jessies Mum on Sunday 20 June 21 11:18 BST (UK)
Thanks for all of the links Sandra, they are helping - but a new mystery thrown up with yet another surname of Harres! 
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 11:21 BST (UK)
Not sure this is relevant or not - there was a Judi Johns Trio in California ? Some of the names might be stage names or similar ?

Press-Telegram Long Beach, California
13 May 1967, Sat    Page 4

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79905431/judi-johns-trio-13-may-1967/

Los Angeles Evening Citizen News Hollywood, California
02 Jun 1967, Fri    Page 35

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79905447/judi-johns-trio-2-june-1967/

Sandra

Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 11:26 BST (UK)


The La Crosse Tribune La Crosse, Wisconsin
24 Nov 1923, Sat    Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79905488/harriet-h-melka-24-november-1923/

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: Jessies Mum on Sunday 20 June 21 11:29 BST (UK)
The family were definitely involved in the entertainment scene, so it could well be that the surname of Johns is a stage name, but has definitely been used as a maiden name on the birth certificates of the children which would make me think there was something official for the name change from Satherley!?  Confusing!
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 11:34 BST (UK)
The first two children were born 1962 before the marriage to Reick. Second one born 1969 after the marriage to Leroy E Reick -  two different fathers ?

Sent you the details of the living daughter.

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 11:41 BST (UK)
Harriet Helene Melka married a Harris.

Parents 50th Wedding Anniversary
St. Louis Post-Dispatch St. Louis, Missouri
11 Sep 1953, Fri    Page 9

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79905642/50-th-wedding-anniversary-of-mr-and-mrs/

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 11:48 BST (UK)

Obituary for father of Harriet (still no mention of granddaughters name)

St. Louis Post-Dispatch St. Louis, Missouri
22 Oct 1959, Thu    Page 29

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79905740/otto-melka-22-october-1959/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32985979/otto-a-melka

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 11:57 BST (UK)

Ida (mother of Harriet Helena Harris)

St. Louis Post-Dispatch St. Louis, Missouri
26 Mar 1975, Wed    Page 62

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79905864/obituary-for-melka-melka/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32985980/ida-m-melka

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 12:05 BST (UK)


Obituary brother Otto

St. Louis Post-Dispatch St. Louis, Missouri
2 May 1987, Sat    Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79905959/otto-a-melka-2-may-1987/

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 12:19 BST (UK)
U.S., Departing Passenger and Crew Lists, 1914-1966 - Pan American World Airways.

Harriet Melka and Arthur Satherley are together on the 6 November 1954 departing New York to Bermuda.

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 12:28 BST (UK)

California Voters List 1956 / 1958 / 1960 - Mrs Harriet H Melka
Street Address 3507 Landa St Los Angeles, California.

Sandra

Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 13:21 BST (UK)
YOU’RE BREAKING MY HEART
(H.H. Melka)

https://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/y/yourebreakingmyheartvarious2.html

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/34083009/Claude+King/You%27re+Breaking+My+Heart

https://www.discogs.com/artist/1267278-Harriett-Melka

http://worldcat.org/identities/np-melka,%20harriet/

Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 20 June 21 13:44 BST (UK)

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/L5VV-HZR/harriet-helen-melka-1906-1994

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qok/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qol/


Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 21 June 21 09:49 BST (UK)
Thanks for the message - you're very welcome. Pleased it all helps.

Regards
Sandra
Title: Re: Daughter of Arthur Edward Satherley
Post by: GeniPEC on Friday 05 August 22 21:15 BST (UK)
Arthur Edward Satherley lived with Harriet Melka and her daughter Judythe Beryl Hares in Southern California. I haven't proven that Art and Harriet ever officially married. They lived together until his death. Perhaps they marred after his wife passed. Judythe was born 16 Feb 1931 in St. Louis MO. MO birth record Harriet H Melka and Ernest J Hares as parents. Also they are all listed on the 1940 St. Louis census. Ernest was a musician and professor of music. Harriet was a singer. They divorced sometime between 1940 census and 1942 WWII card. Harriet and Judy moved to California.
Judy was married to Paul E. Cloyd (my uncle) in Las Vegas 1960. They had twins in 1962, (*) and (*)who were later adopted by Judy's second husband LeRoy Rieck and names were changed to (*) and (*)Rieck. Judy and LeRoy also had a son together. Judy's other names (Marsh and Johns) were her stage names. She was a singer and performer in the 50's and 60's.



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