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Title: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: odbsmith on Monday 21 June 21 14:39 BST (UK)
Re visiting a sort of brick wall and thought someone make have some suggestions to give me some clarity.
 Louisa Barker married Fred Findley in Sept 1898 in Bolton. Their marriage details in the parish records gives Louisa's father as William Barker deceased.
Fred Findley's family bible lists Louisa's Parents deaths as Mary Barker 17th oct 1897, age 49, so birth approx 1848. And William just as age 29 years. William may have been William Henry.
In the 1871 census the family are lodging with Samuel Hulme at Water st Little Bolton, both listed as 25 years old, William from Manchester, Mary from Bolton ( so born 1846)
I can find Mary and Louisa with her  older siblings in  the workhouse in Bolton at the 1881 census, Mary listed as Widow.
In the 1891 census I can find the 3 children (including Louisa) in Bolton with Henry Barker, widower.
       But Mary is still alive and William (Henry) is dead?


 
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 21 June 21 14:56 BST (UK)
Just adding rest of marriage information

10 Sep 1898 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire
Fred Findley - 25, Quarryman, Bachelor, 32 Merrick St.
Louisa Barker - 26, Fly Tenter, Spinster, 34 Merrick St.
Groom's Father: George Findley, Quarryman
Bride's Father: William Barker, deceased
Witnesses  Fred Oldfield Watts &  Ellen Crook
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 21 June 21 15:07 BST (UK)
BARKER, ELLEN       mmn HOLME 
GRO Reference: 1870  March Quarter in BOLTON  Volume 08C  Page 413

BARKER, JOHN  WILLIAM     mmn HALME 
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in BOLTON  Volume 08C  Page 277
 
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 21 June 21 15:09 BST (UK)
Marriages Jun qtr 1866 
BARKER    William       
Hulme    Mary       
Bolton    8c   317

Marriage: 14 Apr 1866 All Saints, Bolton, Lancashire
William Barker - 20, Mechanic, Bachelor, Little Bolton
Mary Hulme - (X), 20, Spinster, Little Bolton
Groom's Father John Barker, occ Engineer
Bride's Father: William Hulme, occ Shoemaker
Witnesses Samuel Hulme, (X); Margaret Metcalf
 
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: philipsearching on Monday 21 June 21 15:23 BST (UK)
BARKER, ELLEN       mmn HOLME 
GRO Reference: 1870  March Quarter in BOLTON  Volume 08C  Page 413

BARKER, JOHN  WILLIAM     mmn HALME 
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in BOLTON  Volume 08C  Page 277

also GRO:  BARKER Louisa, Dec qtr 1871 Chorlton vol 8c p617, mmn HOLME
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 21 June 21 15:29 BST (UK)
I wonder if the enumerator has transcribed the census return in 1891 from the Barker family incorrectly.  Mary could easily be misread as Henry, the occupation given is House Keeper and place of birth Bolton (not Manchester)
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: odbsmith on Monday 21 June 21 15:36 BST (UK)
Just seen a flashing light, Thanks Rosie99.
  Hulme. 1871 census they were with Family,  Mary was Mary Hulme,
I've been stuck in a loop, it was only yesterday evening that I found them on the 1871 census as on Ancestry barker is listed a Batker.
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 21 June 21 15:37 BST (UK)
Fred Findley's family bible lists Louisa's Parents deaths as Mary Barker 17th oct 1897, age 49


Burial: 9 Oct 1897 Heaton Cemetery, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Mary Barker, Widow age 49 - died at 38 Buxton St.
Burial: Div 3 Sec P 41
Parish Removed From Little Bolton

Still looking for William  ::)
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: odbsmith on Monday 21 June 21 15:40 BST (UK)
Yes Rosie99 I had give a thought to the enumerator being mistaken.
 
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: odbsmith on Tuesday 22 June 21 08:50 BST (UK)
Made some steady progress, will concentrate on Williams birth now.
 
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 22 June 21 09:14 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 22 June 21 09:15 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 22 June 21 09:18 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 22 June 21 09:19 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 22 June 21 09:43 BST (UK)
Annie Barker, 11, born Bolton, in the workhouse there in 1881 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27G-8H46

There was an Ann in 1871, age 2
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD6J-612

So four children.   
BARKER, ANN       
Mother's Maiden Surname: HULME 
GRO Reference: 1868  J Quarter in BOLTON  Volume 08C  Page 356
Title: Re: Louisa Barker, born 1871 Bolton
Post by: lancsann on Tuesday 22 June 21 21:16 BST (UK)
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1875
Surname   Forename(s)   Age or Date of Birth   Year   Sub-District   
BARKER   William   29   1875   Market Street