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Title: 1861 census Edinburgh - poor copy
Post by: brooksburns on Tuesday 22 June 21 20:05 BST (UK)
Please help me read the occupation of John Hutton age 13, 5th line down.  Plenty other lines given for context - his father John is a compositor, the man further down is a police constable.

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Title: Re: 1861 census Edinburgh - poor copy
Post by: arthurk on Tuesday 22 June 21 20:27 BST (UK)
Could the first word be Bookbinder?

Not sure about the second - my first thought was Forwarder, but I'm not at all certain of that, and I don't know if that would fit with Bookbinder.

Added:
might be possible - the 1921 list of occupations gives it as another term for tally clerk:

http://doot.spub.co.uk/code.php?value=939
Title: Re: 1861 census Edinburgh - poor copy
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 22 June 21 21:53 BST (UK)
I've had a look on Find My Past.  Bear in mind that these are transcripts not images.

1861 says occupation is Bookbinder forwarder

1871 and 1881 say occupation is Bookbinder
Title: Re: 1861 census Edinburgh - poor copy
Post by: brooksburns on Tuesday 22 June 21 21:55 BST (UK)
Thank you both, that seems to be the answer!
Title: Re: 1861 census Edinburgh - poor copy
Post by: Karen McDonald on Wednesday 23 June 21 06:28 BST (UK)
Quote from: Girl Guide on Tuesday 22 June 21 21:53 BST (UK)
I've had a look on Find My Past.  Bear in mind that these are transcripts not images.

1861 says occupation is Bookbinder forwarder

1871 and 1881 say occupation is Bookbinder

Having never heard of this (and being curious  ;D), I asked Auntie Goggle and found this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Forwarding-Process-Bookbinding-Classic-Pasting-Up/dp/1447443519

Best regards,
Karen
Title: Re: 1861 census Edinburgh - poor copy
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 23 June 21 09:32 BST (UK)
From the Dictionary of Occupational Terms:

Order XVI. MAKERS OF AND WORKERS IN PAPER; PRINTERS, BOOKBINDERS, PHOTOGRAPHERS, ETC.
Code 532: Bookbinders

forwarder (cloth, leather) ; backer, roller
does actual binding of book after it has been sewn; nips or presses book in nipping machine to make it solid; cuts edges on guillotine machine; glues up and attaches first lining of mull by hand; rounds and backs hook on machine, or by hand, and attaches second lining of paper by hand; affixes hoards and covers hooks wholly or partly in. leather, cloth, etc.


http://doot.spub.co.uk/idx.php?letter=F
Title: Re: 1861 census Edinburgh - poor copy
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 23 June 21 13:29 BST (UK)
Well spotted, JenB - I completely missed that when I went to that page and found the other meaning of Forwarder.  :-[