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Title: Royal Welch Fusiliers- 23rd Foot Regiment
Post by: goatfish77 on Tuesday 22 June 21 20:26 BST (UK)
I found an intriguing military record for William Johncey while researching the Johnsey surname in Gloucestershire. I can’t find either a baptism or burial record to match this person yet (closest date match is baptism in Coberley). Also I don’t think Amplney exists. Does anyone know anything about the 23rd Regiment of the Royal Welch Fusiliers and what they would have been doing in 1807, how he would have joined and why he might have been discharged in 1814?

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=3253&h=178952&tid=&pid=&queryId=7541d66d6bcab67fbcfba0dacbc70f03&usePUB=true&_phsrc=HHX2&_phstart=successSource
Title: Re: Royal Welch Fusiliers- 23rd Foot Regiment
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 22 June 21 21:29 BST (UK)
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Britain was at war with France in 1807. Where was William then?
Title: Re: Royal Welch Fusiliers- 23rd Foot Regiment
Post by: Peewee on Tuesday 22 June 21 21:40 BST (UK)
Amplney may not exist but Ampney does and lies some 14 miles south east of Coberley.
In 1807, the 1st Battalion Royal Welch were at the Battle of Copenhagen
Title: Re: Royal Welch Fusiliers- 23rd Foot Regiment
Post by: goatfish77 on Tuesday 22 June 21 22:08 BST (UK)
Quote from: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 22 June 21 21:29 BST (UK)
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Britain was at war with France in 1807. Where was William then?

Yes, sorry.
And in transcribing I have realised he did not die in 1817 I had miscounted the rows, he was actually discharged in 1814!

Uk Regimental Registers of Service 1756-1900 on Ancestry.co.uk:
Record of Non commissioned Officers, Drummers & Privates of 23rd Regiment of HM Royal Welch Fuzileers.

The record transcribes as:
William Johncey
Size 5ft 5 1/2 inches
Age 26
Complexion Fresh
Visage Round?
Eyes Hazel
Hair Dark
Where Born - County Gloucester, Parish Amp(l)ney
Occupation Labourer
Attestation 16th Oct 1807
Discharged 30 Oct 1814 (So he missed Waterloo!)

I was looking for an ancestor who married in 1815 and thought I could discount this one as dead but turns out he could well be a possible match after all. So thank you for making me look harder.
Title: Re: Royal Welch Fusiliers- 23rd Foot Regiment
Post by: goatfish77 on Tuesday 22 June 21 22:14 BST (UK)
Quote from: Peewee on Tuesday 22 June 21 21:40 BST (UK)
Amplney may not exist but Ampney does and lies some 14 miles south east of Coberley.
In 1807, the 1st Battalion Royal Welch were at the Battle of Copenhagen

I am not completely sure about the Coberley baptism as the entry is for a William, son of James & Mary Johnsy Ribbins. So to my mind that makes him William Ribbins with mother’s maiden or family name possibly Johnsy. However it has been transcribed as baptism of William Johnsy.
Title: Re: Royal Welch Fusiliers- 23rd Foot Regiment
Post by: Maiden Stone on Wednesday 23 June 21 13:54 BST (UK)
Quote from: goatfish77 on Tuesday 22 June 21 22:08 BST (UK)

The record transcribes as:
William Johncey

Visage Round?

Discharged 30 Oct 1814 (So he missed Waterloo!)


Round face.
The war ended in 1814 then restarted after Napoleon escaped from Elba and returned to France.
There's a wiki entry for the regiment.