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Title: Madden family - Dublin
Post by: PaulC82 on Monday 05 July 21 21:36 BST (UK): Hello

I’m struggling to locate information on James Joseph Madden and his wife Laura Patricia Madden nee McCullagh. They were married on the 12th of April 1944 in Dublin. On their wedding register it was noted that Michael John Madden was the father of James Joseph Madden and signed as witness.
Laurence McCullagh was listed as father but a Vera McCullagh signed as witness.
It is estimated that James Joseph Madden was born in 1927.
The dates of death for James & Laura are unknown. Both passed away in Dublin.

I’m looking for information on both sets of parents. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction?

*I have a copy of the marriage registration but too large to attach

Paul
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 05 July 21 21:47 BST (UK): Have you checked the Irish 1901 & 1911 censuses?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: PaulC82 on Monday 05 July 21 21:55 BST (UK): Hi

Iv looked at the census but have no other detail on Michael John Madden to validate the two Michael John entries and neither are in Dublin which is a known area that they lived.
There is one possible option for Laurence McCullagh
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 05 July 21 21:59 BST (UK): Married 1944 - estimated birthyear 1927. Was he only 17 when they married?
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: PaulC82 on Monday 05 July 21 22:08 BST (UK): Hi

Unfortunately this information was verbal. I cant completely rule marriage at 17 out but I can’t not think that there are other more suitable dates
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: heywood on Monday 05 July 21 23:51 BST (UK): Quote from: CaroleW on Monday 05 July 21 21:59 BST (UK)
Married 1944 - estimated birthyear 1927. Was he only 17 when they married?

He is a soldier on marriage so I would imagine he is older than 17yrs.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1944/08759/5165532.pdf

His father is Michael and the witness is Michael John - could be two different people. He also states his residence is Santry.

There is this Madden family in Santry in 1911. There is a 16 yr old Michael.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Drumcondra_Rural__Part_of/Santry/26545/
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 July 21 00:07 BST (UK): A marriage to look at 1916 - Michael Madden
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1916/09769/5545914.pdf
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: PaulC82 on Tuesday 06 July 21 07:52 BST (UK): Thank you all. Very relevant points.

Love this group, forces me to think differently.
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 06 July 21 08:42 BST (UK): Lorane ? Partricia McCullagh born Ben Edair Road 1919 To Laurence and Elizabeth Segrave
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01249/1518949.pdf

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09898/5596464.pdf
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: PaulC82 on Tuesday 06 July 21 08:48 BST (UK): Thank you! Taking the above suggestions into consideration regarding the age of James Joseph Madden- this could definitely be a option
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 July 21 09:22 BST (UK): Quote from: dathai on Tuesday 06 July 21 08:42 BST (UK)
Lorane ? Partricia McCullagh born Ben Edair Road 1919 To Laurence and Elizabeth Segrave
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01249/1518949.pdf

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09898/5596464.pdf

Great finds dathai.

I can’t see a birth about the same time for James Madden :-\ he might have been born after 1920 though.
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 July 21 09:27 BST (UK): James Joseph Madden, 1920 - right name and place
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB14-GT5

This record does not seem to be on Irish genealogy yet.
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: PaulC82 on Tuesday 06 July 21 09:37 BST (UK): This could definitely be an option. Thank you
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 06 July 21 09:45 BST (UK): Laurence Mcullagh 1901 age 15
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Drumcondra/Drumcondra__Church_Ave_/1271891/

1911 Royal Irish Fusiliers
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7V4-19F

edited to add left army shortly after and joined Guinness in Aug 1912 died 1947
https://www.guinness-storehouse.com/en/archives/archives-genealogy#
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 06 July 21 13:06 BST (UK): James and Laura are both buried Donabate 1990s
https://buried.fingal.ie/search-for-a-burial/
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 06 July 21 13:38 BST (UK): Quote from: dathai on Tuesday 06 July 21 13:06 BST (UK)
James and Laura are both buried Donabate 1990s
https://buried.fingal.ie/search-for-a-burial/

That’s such a good find dathai.
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: PaulC82 on Tuesday 06 July 21 14:08 BST (UK): Wow!

This is AMAZING!!!

I am in awe of all you wonderful researchers!
I can only hope that I can build the knowledge and skill set you all have.

Thank you so much
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 06 July 21 14:15 BST (UK): Mary Christina Madden Dec 1919
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01225/1509438.pdf

appears to have married Desmond Cummins in 1944 as Christina Mary Madden
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1944/08753/5163484.pdf

Michael jnr 1917
278
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01305/1539644.pdf

possiby buried Donabate in C 67
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: dathai on Thursday 08 July 21 14:06 BST (UK): Matthew Madden ,Blacksmith
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Drumcondra_Rural__Part_of/Santry/26545/

died 1964 at St Its's Hosp ,Portrane he is buried in Balgriffin
https://buried.fingal.ie/search-for-a-burial/

where his address is given as the Forge ,Santry
https://www.historicalpicturearchive.com/shop/pictures/sraid-bhaile-shentreibh-santry-co-dublin-qx-00142/

you can get a better photo on Facebook

you will also pick up the schools collection from Googling the Old Forge,Santry
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: KD146 on Thursday 22 July 21 16:46 BST (UK): My great aunt Margaret Quearney (1905-1976) married a John Madden (1905-) in 1923. She came from Santry Demesne (a former gate lodge on Santry Avenue). Another great aunt, Mary Jane Quearney (1906-1969), also from Santry Demesne, had a daughter Patricia Brangan (1932-2020) who married a James McCullagh (1923-1993). These would all be likely related.
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: heywood on Thursday 22 July 21 17:20 BST (UK): Here is the marriage of John Madden and Margaret Quearney. (Transcribed as Inearney)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1923/09184/5322018.pdf

Yes, the same Madden family :)
Title: Re: RE:MADDEN FAMILY - DUBLIN
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 22 July 21 17:23 BST (UK): Quote from: KD146 on Thursday 22 July 21 16:46 BST (UK)
Another great aunt, Mary Jane Quearney (1906-1969), also from Santry Demesne.......

This link in 1930-

Mary Frances has her surname spelt as Quaerney on IG. She was a witness at her sister's wedding (as Mary Jane).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1930/09039/5270847.pdf

KG
Title: Re: Madden family - Dublin
Post by: PaulC82 on Thursday 22 July 21 17:53 BST (UK): Wow! Thank you! This is great. 😀😀
Title: Re: Madden family - Dublin
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 22 July 21 19:00 BST (UK): Quote from: KD146 on Thursday 22 July 21 16:46 BST (UK)
My great aunt Margaret Quearney (1905-1976).........

Another great aunt, Mary Jane Quearney (1906-1969), also from Santry Demesne..........

Margaret born in 1905 in Santry with surname written as Quiran.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01796/1704461.pdf

Mary Jane born in 1906 also at Santry Demesne. MMN Cobbe
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01720/1680689.pdf

Quote from: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 22 July 21 17:23 BST (UK)
Mary Frances has her surname spelt as Quaerney on IG. She was a witness at her sister's wedding (as Mary Jane).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1930/09039/5270847.pdf

John Joseph Mary Brangan born in 1908 in Swords.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01655/1660439.pdf

In 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Swords_East/Main_Street/4384/

KG
Title: Re: Madden family - Dublin
Post by: PaulC82 on Thursday 22 July 21 19:42 BST (UK): Thank you

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