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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: alison2763 on Thursday 08 July 21 04:32 BST (UK)
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Hello all,
I have recently discovered a relative of mine, James GREENSLADE, may have been transported to Tasmania in 1844 aboard the "Anson".
I can't find any details about him.
I am finding the new LINC page extremely difficult to navigate.
Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction ?
His parents were
William GREENSLADE and Mary PRICHARD.
He was born in 1814. His siblings were born in Bath Somerset, I have been unable to find a birth for James either.
TIA
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I can find an Isaac GREENSLADE on that voyage.
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON27-1-10$init=CON27-1-10
and when I click on Isaac it brings up James GREENSLADE ;D ;D ;D so perhaps the indexer mis-read his first name
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-49$init=CON33-1-49p172
Does this help? There's more but yes, that website's recent ''improvements" don't make it easier at all.
JM
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two snips, showing what I spotted at
https://www.libraries.tas.gov.au/how-to/Pages/Names-Index-content.aspx.
JM
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Images 74 and 75 of the Convict Indent are for Isaac GREENSLADE per the Anson
JM
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I can see a James Greenslade per Anson getting a ticket of leave in 1849
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Thanks for that JM.
Yes I saw Isaac and wondered.. but on Ancestry on
New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849
Tasmania
Ledger Returns A-R
1846
It is definitely written as James GREENSLADE . Tried at GCC. Ship Anson 1844
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Neale 1961.
Yes and it is in Trove too
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/65578539?searchTerm=%22James%20Greenslade%22
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In the 1846 convict muster ledger, there is James Greenslade, per Anson, tried at Central Criminal Court 1842. Remarks - Pontville depot?
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Neale1961.
Correct. That is what I got on Ancestry.
Where would I look for the trial ?
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https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def2-1175-18430403&div=t18430403-1175#highlight
1175. JOHN ASBURY , and ISAAC GREENSLADE , were indicted for stealing, on the 5th of April, 1 handkerchief, value 3d., the goods of Joseph Metcalf, from his person.
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ASBURY,— GUILTY .— Confined Three Months.
GREENSLADE*— GUILTY .— Transported for Ten Years.
trial
JM
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Thanks Neale1961.
I was just reading that.
Can't find James listed at all though.
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I get the impression that Isaac and James is the same man.
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Neale1961
I'm beginning to believe the same thing. Transportation for stealing a handkerchief is a bit rough, but there are other mentions of Isaac Greenslade on the Old Bailey list too...if it's the same man, maybe it was his last strike.
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I can see how ISAAC could be mis-read as JAMES and vice versa when written in longhand, so it is possible that the printer was initially working from handwritten notes when preparing the Old Bailey documentation, same with the indexer for the Tas records. Index clearly has Isaac, but the actual document definitely reads James.
JM
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James Greenslade per Anson
Sentence expired 1853
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36268865?searchTerm=“James%20greenslade”
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James Greenslade per Anson
Sentence expired 1853
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36268865?searchTerm=“James%20greenslade”
Well found Neale.
:D
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Certificate of freedom April 1853 (last column, towards bottom)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/65578539?searchTerm=“James%20greenslade”
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Thanks JM and Neale1961 for your help.
Can we conclude that James and Isaac are one and the same ?
I still can't find a marriage or death for James in Tasmania. If it is my James his brother immigrated to and died in SA.
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There is a marriage in hobart April 1857 for a James Webber Greenslade and Sarah Goode?
Edit - possibly not right. That James is a widower.
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Looking at the Chatham prison hulk register, the ‘isaac’ Greenslade convicted for 10 yrs at CCC in 1843 was aged 17, so birth about 1826.
Does that age fit with James?
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No Neale1961.
My James was born in 1814.
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No Neale1961.
My James was born in 1814.
So, we might not have the right man.
That is the only place on any record that i have found an age for him.
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18 when transported... so Isaac and James are one and the same person.
See snip attached
JM
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18 when transported... so Isaac and James are one and the same person.
yes, I agree. He seemed to have used "Isaac" in England, and "James" in Australia.
He might be the "Isaac James Greenslade" who married Harriett Quinn in 1864 Tasmania (Longford).
And might be the James Greenslade who died in 1892 in Ulverstone, Tas.
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Thank you JM and Neale.
You have given me more to work with :)