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Title: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: clive23 on Wednesday 14 July 21 19:39 BST (UK)
Hi,
Interested in wedding of William Luke to Rose Bottiere in September 1873. In Alencon, Orne, France
This is the farther of my Grandfather Francis Wallace Luke
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 15 July 21 09:14 BST (UK)
So they were married twice? The earlier one was at St Paul's Wilton Place in March 1873. Rose spelled her surname Boiettiere. Father Pierre Boiettiere, a farmer.
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: clive23 on Thursday 15 July 21 10:32 BST (UK)
Hi,

Many thanks for your post which made me go back to my research pages.

You are correct with regards William Luke and Rose Bottiere marriage in London. (Interesting Church looks expensive for marriage). March 1873 wedding

Now this is where I appear to loose my thread on these people.
They had 5 children of which Francis Wallace Luke I have born 18th September 1873 in Alencon, France.

And it is Francis I need to confirm was born in France.

William Luke was a farmer up north in England and he marries a women from France whose farther  was also a farmer. I suspect Rose was living in London at the time as I have her occupation as Servant.
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 15 July 21 10:46 BST (UK)
A search on Filae.com brings up a hit for the birth of Francois Wallace Luke in the Orne Archives (Archives de l'Orne).

https://www.filae.com/v4/genealogie/search.mvc/searchform?ln=luke&fn=francois&spi=1&tab=1&idf=True&hmtr=True&gmsr=True

https://archives.orne.fr/
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: joger on Thursday 15 July 21 10:56 BST (UK)
here it is

https://gaia.orne.fr/mdr/index.php/docnumViewer/calculHierarchieDocNum/388714/1057:357811:379029:388714/1440/2560

number 226

parents married 8 the december 1872 in London, both 31 in 1873, lived 52 rue de la barre in Alençon, no occupation for either of them. Father usually living in London .

Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: joger on Thursday 15 July 21 12:38 BST (UK)
I found a Pierre Boittiere who died in Alençon ( Orne) 20 july 1868
and married Marie Catherine Hubert  17 june 1827 in Ravigny ( Mayenne)

and a Rose Françoise Boittiere born in 1842 in Ravigny (Mayenne)
https://archives.lamayenne.fr/archives-en-ligne/ark:/37963/r1121z60riyk/f82
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: joger on Thursday 15 July 21 12:56 BST (UK)
Marie Catherine Hubert died 7 january 1892 in Alençon ,73 rue de la barre

https://gaia.orne.fr/mdr/index.php/docnumViewer/calculHierarchieDocNum/388495/1057:357811:379029:388495/1440/2560
page 5 number 11
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 15 July 21 21:22 BST (UK)
do you think this is the grandson of William Luke
son of Francis Wallace Luke ?
born in Fulham
https://gw.geneanet.org/eallendre?n=luke&oc=&p=francis+arthur+william
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: joger on Friday 16 July 21 09:43 BST (UK)
https://archives.lamayenne.fr/archives-en-ligne/ark:/37963/r11193t3am4k/f231

marriage Pierre Boittiere and (Marie) Catherine Hubert 17 june 1827 Ravigny (Mayenne)

Says the bride born 17 january 1807 , Champfremont, father françois Hubert , mother marie Chauvel
. Groom born 9 prairial an 7 in Ravigny , father Jean Boittiere and mother Barbe Lecoq . All were farmers.
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: joger on Friday 16 July 21 09:46 BST (UK)
https://archives.lamayenne.fr/archives-en-ligne/ark:/37963/r2752b7xx1fk/f93
birth Marie Catherine Hubert 17 january 1807, Champfremont
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: joger on Friday 16 July 21 10:14 BST (UK)
https://archives.lamayenne.fr/archives-en-ligne/ark:/37963/r2752b7xx1fk/f77
marriage François Hubert ( son of Alexis Hubert and Catherine Richard ) and Marie Chauvel ( daughter of Jean Chauvel and Françoise Philippe)  6 february  1806, Champfremont .
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: clive23 on Friday 16 July 21 10:28 BST (UK)
Joger,

I have a feeling it is your reply 5 that looks correct.

Thank you for your interest.
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: clive23 on Friday 16 July 21 11:13 BST (UK)
Joger can you explain birth Date  Groom born 9 prairial an 7 in Ravigny I assume they used the French Calendar
Title: Re: Wedding in Alencon, France
Post by: joger on Friday 16 July 21 17:54 BST (UK)
9 prairial an 7 ( French republican calendar ) is 28 may 1799 .

I use this converter:
http://www.poissons52.fr/histoire/revolution1789/calendrier_v.php
From 1 january 1806, when it was abandonned , the french used the gregorian calendar again.

Then when dates had to be converted (in a marriage or death certificate) many mistakes were made .