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Title: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: jake01 on Monday 19 July 21 16:08 BST (UK)
I am looking for a long lost relative named Lloyd or Peet around 1900 in the area of  Brown Edge Scarisbrick Lancashire. Any help with this would fill a big hole in my family tree. Thank you to anyone who may be able to help. regards  Jake 01.
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 16:22 BST (UK)
1911 Family Search link here to Lloyd/Peet
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWY3-4BL

You can search censuses for free on Family Search if you want to go back  :)
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 16:26 BST (UK)
Gro https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

1895 Harry Peet Lloyd with motherís name Peet
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: jake01 on Monday 19 July 21 18:14 BST (UK)
Hi Heywood  I thank you for your response I have tried  Family Search but I do not have enough family info to satisfy their requirements. I think I need someone with access direct to the census of 1901 or1911.  thank for your help.
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 18:20 BST (UK)
So is that not the family in 1911?
We are Ďt allowed to go into 1911 details but I have linked it for you.

My idea was that in giving you those names, you could then search  the family in earlier records.
For example in 1901, Mary Jís husband is James. They are not at the same address.
Looking at Free BMD, there is a marriage, 1883, where James Lloyd and Mary Peet are on the same page

They have your names and are in the right place. However, they might not be yours.

It is going to be difficult if you have no other information.
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 19 July 21 19:26 BST (UK)
It may help if you can tell us how you have arrived at either of those surnames. 

How do you know they are a "long lost relative" when you are unable to give either a christian name or even sex?

How did you arrive at "around 1900" 
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: jake01 on Monday 19 July 21 20:27 BST (UK)
Hi Carol W.  My wife was Margaret Peet Green. connected to both the Lloyd and Peet family which farmed   Peets Farm on Peets lane Churchtown. I did part of the family tree prior to my wife's dead four years ago and have just started to re look at it. Right what I am looking for is which part of the family farmed at peets farm and what were the circumstances of them leaving the farm and then were did they live. Then only info I have got is The husband (farmer died) and left hiswife with children and after leaving the farm I believe but cannot prove without census record they lived at or near scarisbrick either pool hey or brown edge. Any help with this would be very welcome.
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 20:55 BST (UK)
That information would perhaps have helped.

I have just tried my link to F S and it doesnít work. This was happening the other day so sorry if you canít see it. It showed when I clicked on Ďsign iní. (I was already signed in so you might have to do that.
If you search yourself for Harry Peet Lloyd, you should find them. 1911 will help with the place you want.

I mentioned that marriage too.

This site https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ shows baptisms for Paul and Richard Lloyd, Sept 12th 1883 at Churchtown.
Their parents are James Lloyd and Mary Jane. (Fits with earlier info I mentioned).

1891 3034/100
James, Mary Jane and children are living at Peets Farm, Peets Lane, Southport with Peets relatives.
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 21:13 BST (UK)
1871 3873/74/1

North Melos Marshside, Southport
Blown Out Lane
Richard Peet 34 yrs   Head farmer of 37 acres
Jane Peet 35 yrs Wife
Mary Jane Peet 7 yrs    Daughter
Margaret Peet 5 yrs daughter
Rachael Peet 2 yrs daughter
Plus 2 servants

All born North Meols

1881 3747/115/24

Jenny Peet and children still in Blown Out Lane. She is a widow
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 21:17 BST (UK)
30th December 1879 Administration of the estate of Richard Peet, died 2nd July 1879 late of Churchtown granted to Jane Peet , widow.

Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: Gibel on Monday 19 July 21 21:26 BST (UK)
In 1901 they are in Churchgate Peets Lane Churchtown Southport.
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 21:34 BST (UK)
1901 3536/96/19

James and Mary J Lloyd plus several children are living at Church Gates, Southport. He is a Corporation Labourer. The census addresses above this entry are Peets Lane.
So between 1891 and 1901 the Lloyds have left Peets Farm.

1901, Jane Peet is living at 15 Vernon Road Southport with sons and a grandson.
There is a death later in 1901.


Possibly not the right one?
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 21:35 BST (UK)
In 1901 they are in Churchgate Peets Lane Churchtown Southport.

Sorry Gibel, I posted because I had the other bits of info.
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: Br1gau on Monday 19 July 21 21:43 BST (UK)
I've had issues with family search and my internet connection today - thought the two were linked!

Does this link help?

http://www.briangriffiths.co.uk/tng/getperson.php?personID=I12058&tree=BG_TREE
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 July 21 21:57 BST (UK)
Thatís great  :)
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 20 July 21 07:23 BST (UK)
there was a notice on Familysearch yesterday morning saying some details not available due to work on site  :)
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: Gibel on Tuesday 20 July 21 09:42 BST (UK)
You might find these free sites useful, the first one you have already been given but I wanted to add the info about where to look

www.lan-opc.org.uk  look under North Meols and Southport

www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Also the free search on the GRO website
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Brown Edge was just a few houses just over the Southport border in Scarisbrick, I suspect they would be living on one of the properties actually on Southport Road as the alternative Turning Lane appears to be named on the 1911 Census forms. I live in Birkdale so next time I go that way Iíll take a look. I might even have a nose round Churchtown when it cools down a bit!

For the moment I have no idea where Blown Out Lane is! I did wonder if it could be Blowick Lane.
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: Gibel on Tuesday 20 July 21 09:58 BST (UK)
Deleted misinformation
Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 20 July 21 10:19 BST (UK)
Now we need to know how Margaret Peet Green fits?
When was she born, who were her parents?
Presumably she is on the Peet side rather than the Lloyds.


There is also a William Lloyd marriage to Jane Halsall in 1883. In 1891 3041/40 they are living at Brown Edge.
I think he is sibling of James Lloyd who married Mary Jane Peet.

Title: Re: Lloyd or Peet
Post by: jake01 on Tuesday 20 July 21 17:55 BST (UK)
Heywood I thank you for your replies. You have answeredsome of my quires.  First James Lloyd was the farmer and Mary Jane Lloyd (Peet) his wife. They all lived Peets Farm on Peets Lane  Churchtown with their children. I believe sometime between 1904 and the census of 1911 James Died and his wife Mary Jane Lloyd went to live Brown edge Scarisbrick. I am trying to find out the circumstances of leaving the Farm. That is one of my goals. One of the children from the farm was my wife's mother Mary Jane Lloyd until she married George Curzon Green .
 Thank you for any further Help...