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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Fraser178 on Monday 19 July 21 19:36 BST (UK)
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Hey,
I've got two wills that I'm unable to make out more than one word, I've hosted them online as the files are too large to upload with the post.
https://ibb.co/6bF9c1f (https://ibb.co/6bF9c1f) - Robert Harper of Beoley (d. 1598)
https://ibb.co/chQBDnw (https://ibb.co/chQBDnw) - Humphrey Harper of Meriden (d. 1641)
Any help even on a part of it would be much appreciated! Please let me know if the links don't work
Thank you,
Joel
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I will make a start and perhaps you can recognize some words from this to carry on
In the name of God Amen my only maker Saviour and Reademer and thy blessed virgin Marie his mother and all the holie companie of heaven I Robert Harper of Beoley in the countie of Worcester yeoman willinge to my remembrannce they manifold giftes and great benefitts that have received at his glorious hands in this miserable and wretched world for the which I most humblie thanke him and doe acknowledge my selfe that I am not able to recompense thy ?? or leaste part thereof but am hartely sorie that I have not
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"thy ??" = "the simpleste"
Ray
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line 4
... callinge to my remembrannce the manifolde giftes ...
(For anyone helping, the copy on Ancestry is much easier to read.)
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This must be the same Robert Harper 20 years earlier. He was the plaintiff in a case in Common Pleas in Hilary Term, 1578.
London. Robert Harper, of 'Boelye', yeoman, versus John Russell, of Strensham, Worcs, esq, for a debt of 40 pounds
Second full entry:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT5/Eliz/CP40no1354/aCP40no1354fronts/IMG_0640.htm
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I've hosted them online as the files are too large to upload with the post.
you can re-size them to fit.
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I've hosted them online as the files are too large to upload with the post.
you can re-size them to fit.
Would this reduce the quality to make them unreadable?
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This must be the same Robert Harper 20 years earlier. He was the plaintiff in a case in Common Pleas in Hilary Term, 1578.
London. Robert Harper, of 'Boelye', yeoman, versus John Russell, of Strensham, Worcs, esq, for a debt of 40 pounds
Second full entry:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT5/Eliz/CP40no1354/aCP40no1354fronts/IMG_0640.htm
Thanks for this! Not come across this for Robert before, always glad to add more to my files
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I will make a start and perhaps you can recognize some words from this to carry on
In the name of God Amen my only maker Saviour and Reademer and thy blessed virgin Marie his mother and all the holie companie of heaven I Robert Harper of Beoley in the countie of Worcester yeoman willinge to my remembrannce they manifold giftes and great benefitts that have received at his glorious hands in this miserable and wretched world for the which I most humblie thanke him and doe acknowledge my selfe that I am not able to recompense thy ?? or leaste part thereof but am hartely sorie that I have not
Thanks, much appreciated! Hopefully I can start to make out some more
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Hopefully I can start to make out some more
With one exception, there's nothing of significance in the text from Clayton's work down to the end of the ninth line of page 2.
This exception is that he names his master as one Raphe Sheldon. In this section he doesn't say what his relation is to his master, but it's clear he holds Sheldon in high esteem.
It then continues:
...Item I
give and bequeath unto William Harper my sonne my great golde Ringe for and
duringe his liefe and the remainder thereof to Robert Harper his sonne and to his
heires males forever. Item I give and bequeath unto William my sonne uppon
the Condicions followinge all my right title and tearme of yeares with the Indenture
and bandes and the advowson of the next gifte of the vicarage of Beoley with all other
proffittes thereunto belonging in as large and ample manner as my selfe have the same
or might or ought to have the same he payinge the Rentes and duties which I ought
to doe and under this condicion that he shall paie unto Edward Haselwood of Worceter
late servannte to S(ir) William fforreste preste one yearlie annuitie of twentie six
shillinges eight pence given him by his saide master and left with me of truste which...
This takes it down to about one-third of the way through page 2.
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Hopefully I can start to make out some more
With one exception, there's nothing of significance in the text from Clayton's work down to the end of the ninth line of page 2.
This exception is that he names his master as one Raphe Sheldon. In this section he doesn't say what his relation is to his master, but it's clear he holds Sheldon in high esteem.
It then continues:
...Item I
give and bequeath unto William Harper my sonne my great golde Ringe for and
duringe his liefe and the remainder thereof to Robert Harper his sonne and to his
heires males forever. Item I give and bequeath unto William my sonne uppon
the Condicions followinge all my right title and tearme of yeares with the Indenture
and bandes and the advowson of the next gifte of the vicarage of Beoley with all other
proffittes thereunto belonging in as large and ample manner as my selfe have the same
or might or ought to have the same he payinge the Rentes and duties which I ought
to doe and under this condicion that he shall paie unto Edward Haselwood of Worceter
late servannte to S(ir) William fforreste preste one yearlie annuitie of twentie six
shillinges eight pence given him by his saide master and left with me of truste which...
This takes it down to about one-third of the way through page 2.
Thanks for this, its a big help! I'll have to see if I can research who Ralph/Raphe Sheldon is.
I did manage to glean the word 'Humphrey' at the end of page 2, aside from the bequeth part, can you make out any words on the next few sentences?
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Looks like Ralph Sheldon was a member parliament for worcestershire and Knight of the shire, interesting!
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/sheldon-ralph-1537-1613 (https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/sheldon-ralph-1537-1613)
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I did manage to glean the word 'Humphrey' at the end of page 2, aside from the bequeth part, can you make out any words on the next few sentences?
...Item I give and bequeathe unto Humfrey
Harper my sonne all my right title and interest with the Indenture of lease of all the
hows(es) and grounde there unto belonginge with all the proffittes and Comodities in the
same Indenture specified whatsoever they be or that I have or ought to have by vertue
of the saide Indenture of lease of and in my house called heath greene which I holde
of master William ^*^ Sheldon as by the Indenture apperethe...
* There's another forename interlined here. At this stage I'm not sure what it is but I don't think it is Raphe.
There are more bequests to Humfrey after this but I have to be finished for the night.
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* There's another forename interlined here. At this stage I'm not sure what it is but I don't think it is Raphe.
Keep a look out for a Philip Sheldon. I'm not confident this is correct - especially the initial - but it's the best I can do for now.
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I did manage to glean the word 'Humphrey' at the end of page 2, aside from the bequeth part, can you make out any words on the next few sentences?
...Item I give and bequeathe unto Humfrey
Harper my sonne all my right title and interest with the Indenture of lease of all the
hows(es) and grounde there unto belonginge with all the proffittes and Comodities in the
same Indenture specified whatsoever they be or that I have or ought to have by vertue
of the saide Indenture of lease of and in my house called heath greene which I holde
of master William ^*^ Sheldon as by the Indenture apperethe...
* There's another forename interlined here. At this stage I'm not sure what it is but I don't think it is Raphe.
There are more bequests to Humfrey after this but I have to be finished for the night.
Thank you again! Interesting stuff, I'll see what else I can make of it all.
Just noticed the extra post, I'll check out what sons/brothers/nephews for Raphe Sheldon that mat match
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Here are the remaining bequests to Humfrey. His youngest son Richard receives the next bequest.
...And furthermore I give
and bequeathe unto my saide sonne Humfrey Harper all my right title and tearme of
yeares with the Indenture which is called Crosse Hadlonde which Indenture I bought
of one Wiliam Suffeilde ^[Suffeil?]^ beinge an executor to Edward Benforde late of Bewley all
the same Cottage with a close is in Beoley Item I give and bequeath unto my saide
sonne Humfrey all my right title interest and tearme of yeares which I have of late
taken of my good M(aster) M(aster) Raphe Sheldon esquier in revercion after William ffrances
John Boulte hath the indenture to make and I have paide the fine being twentie
foure pounde...
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* There's another forename interlined here. At this stage I'm not sure what it is but I don't think it is Raphe.
Keep a look out for a Philip Sheldon. I'm not confident this is correct - especially the initial - but it's the best I can do for now.
I also think it's Philip.
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foure pounde...[/b]
foure pounde Item I doe give and bequeath unto Richard Harper my yongest sonne
the two leas(es) and Coppie holde which I have taken and which was William Patrick(es)
Item my will is that my lease at Tanworthe which I holde of Mr John ffullwood
shalbe soulde and the monie to be devided into three equall partes One parte thereof to
be given to my sonne William Harper One other parte thereof to my sonne Humfrey
And the thirde parte thereof to my youngest sonne Richard Item I doe give unto my
sonne William Harper tenn poundes which he doth owe unto me by one bill of debte ...
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Would this reduce the quality to make them unreadable?
No most of the images you see are uploaded and are perfectly readable.
Regards
Sarah