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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Gerry Burroughs on Wednesday 28 July 21 17:02 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone I am trying to find out more information on my uncle Martin Blake. What I do know is he was born in Belfast in 1906 at 48 Jocelyn Avenue. His father my grandad was in the Royal Irish Constabulary Michael Blake. He was posted with his family to Kerry where the remainder of his children were born apart from one other who was also born in Belfast. In 1922 my grandad was disbanded and he and the family went to live in England. At sometime I dont know when he returned to live in Belfast. In the 1950s my Uncle Martin would make the odd visit to Belfast and sometime in the 50s he died in England. All I know is he was married with a family whose names I have no idea and that he had something to do with working on the railways possibly as a train driver?? I would love to know more about his family if at all possible. Many thanks Gerry
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do you know when Michael was born & where in England they settled.
Added:
He was a cleaner with the LNER & married but not with his wife in 1939?
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Here's his birth.....2nd April. His mother's MN Devlin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01743/1688432.pdf
1911 census
Residents of a house 16 in Quay Street (Caher, Kerry).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Caher/Quay_Street/102420/
Second child Margaret born in 1907 in Belfast.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01690/1671367.pdf
KG
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Might this be his death?
Jul-Sep 1962
BLAKE Martin J 56 Ipswich 4b 696
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According to my grandads pension record, the family settled in 47 The Avenue Ramsey Huntingdone. My grandad was born in Kilbaha Martins father on the 2/09/1871 Co Clare. The information already here is amazing I didn’t have any knowledge about Martin apart from his occasional visit to Belfast when I was very young and the odd conversation about him from my mum to her sister. They all had come though some very traumatic times in Ireland which they talked about. I have no idea when they returned to Belfast from England apart from a sheet of paper regarding pension payments to my grandad. I am more than fascinated now about Martins children and if there are any survivors?? Thank you for all the information so far and yes I do recall the name Ipswich mentioned by my mum.
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All Martin's children married so some family must be around somewhere but
were not allowed to name living children.
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I fully understand that but what I have been told today is just amazing so can’t thank everyone enough for all your help so far. Is it possible to find out how long my grandad and his family stayed in England from the address I have given?
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He's not on the Electoral Rolls in Cambs. where Ramsey is.
It's possible because of his job he might not have wanted
his name in the public domain.
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I never thought of that. He had survived several ambushes Dunmanway Killorglin and at his home where Martin managed to escape from their house to summon help from the police barracks. Apparently had a rough time and never went back to the family farm in Kilbaha Co Clare.
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There are a few trees on Ancestry which give information re Ivy and the children but little of Martin.
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He's not on the Electoral Rolls in Cambs. where Ramsey is.
It's possible because of his job he might not have wanted
his name in the public domain.
Since 1928, it has been a legal requirement to register to vote.
The only people exempt are those who lack legal capacity such as prisoners.
Not having your name in the public domain is a more recent concept.
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Bit strange some information I had yesterday has disappeared?? details of his wife and his children have gone!!!!
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Possibly due to the fact that either all or some of the children could still be alive. It depends on what years they were born.
When you put names on here you do need to make it clear that the named person(s) are dead. Rootschat has a policy of no living people to prevent spamming etc.
Any information regarding living people has to be provided via the private message system. :)
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Thank you for that explanation I fully appreciate that. I wonder if the researcher could PM the details which were sent yesterday. I would really appreciate that. Thank you.
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You will have to hope that whoever it was will contact you with that information. Can you remember the Rootschat name of the person who gave you that?
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https://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Shows the marriage of Martin J Blake and Ivy V Saunders in 1927, Hitchin. There are 3 births in Hitchin following this marriage which can be found by searching the site using the mother’s name too.
The marriage was posted yesterday and I posted after the one you refer to which is why I mentioned Ivy.
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I've just checked using your info Heywood and I can see that the youngest child could still be alive.
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My grandad was born in Kilbaha Martins father on the 2/09/1871 Co Clare.
According to the civil record, Michael was born on the 21st August at Kiltrellig which is a townland adjoining Kilbaha South.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03281/2202457.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/clare/moyarta/kilballyowen/kilballyowen/kiltrellig/
https://www.townlands.ie/clare/moyarta/kilballyowen/kilballyowen/kilbaha-south/
A Martin Blake was in the 1901 census at Kiltrellig.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Kilballyowen/Kiltrellig/1077348/
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I've just checked using your info Heywood and I can see that the youngest child could still be alive.
The 1932 birth married in 1950s and died 1990.
I don’t know if there were any younger children.
Presumably whoever posted the information, I don’t recall if children were mentioned, changed their mind.
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Doesn't look like there were any younger children. I went up to 1950 for Hitchin/Hertfordshire.
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Gerry should be able to trace any children from that marriage and any marriages for the other two Blake children.
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I posted the information but all of those mentioned are deceased.
No idea why it was removed but it wasn't removed by me.
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I posted the information but all of those mentioned are deceased.
No idea why it was removed but it wasn't removed by me.
You posted full details from 1939 Register which is not allowed as it only comes from a pay site (we are only allowed to post details from it that are available from a 'free' search).
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Can the names of the children be PM to me. Yesterday a name was redacted!! Any idea why that would be. ??
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Names on the 1939 register are redacted if that person is in
the armed forces or it's not been proved that they are deceased.
I'll send you a pm.