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Title: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Wellwood on Monday 09 August 21 16:32 BST (UK)
William Wellwood is a n'er do well cousin 3 times removed, sentenced to 14yrs transportation in 1830.

I'm trying to find out what happened after his time in Australia. He received a ticket of leave passport on 28th April 1847 and apparently disappeared! Can anyone point me in the right direction to try and find out more?

I'm assuming he got a passage from Australia somewhere - there's a William Wellwood in Canada by 1850 that's a possible match but no direct link.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 09 August 21 21:35 BST (UK)
A mention and description in 1879

Information is requested respecting William Wellwood per ship Burrell 1830. Description on arrival...

1879 'Missing Friends.', New South Wales Police Gazette and Weekly Record of Crime (Sydney : 1860 - 1930), 28 May, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article251895898

M
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Wellwood on Monday 09 August 21 21:42 BST (UK)
Thanks. I had seen that and it gives a good description of his tattoos that I hadn't found before. As a "missing friends" article, does that mean he's been in Australia up to 1879? Or could it mean he's left and come back - the ticket to leave passport feels like a definite intention to leave the country...
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 09 August 21 22:48 BST (UK)
William Wellwood per Burrell 1830 is recorded in Colonial Secretary papers (m3638) in the "Annual return of convict deaths" - 22 May 1879.

It is not clear if that date is the date of his death, or the date the document. I suspect the later.

In which case, the death may be the one registered (5866/1876 ) in Deniliquin NSW in 1876 with parents names William and May.
There was a William Wellwood who purchased land in Deniliquin in 1862, and also married there in the same year to Mary Hogben.
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Wellwood on Monday 09 August 21 23:07 BST (UK)
Amazing! That sounds correct - I have his mother as Mary not May but that could be a simple error. So I just need to figure out why he didn't leave when he had the chance.

Thank you
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: matthewj64 on Monday 09 August 21 23:56 BST (UK)
William Wellwood per Burrell 1830 is recorded in Colonial Secretary papers (m3638) in the "Annual return of convict deaths" - 22 May 1879.

This is record of the enquiry made into his whereabouts and has his trial and ToL details, and -
Papers to Mr Ryeland for Enquiry 22/5/79
Subsequently filed in the PG Office

Note the date is about a week before the Police Gazette entry
No mention of his death unfortunately

M
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 10 August 21 01:17 BST (UK)
Letters of Administration for previously mention death in Deniliquin.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/225826269?searchTerm=%22%20william%20Wellwood%22
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Wellwood on Tuesday 10 August 21 10:02 BST (UK)
This is all really useful, thank you for your help.

In which case, the death may be the one registered (5866/1876 ) in Deniliquin NSW in 1876 with parents names William and May.

I'm struggling to find this record, do you have a link to the site you used?
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 10 August 21 10:36 BST (UK)
Link to NSW BMD - hope it works.
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/deaths?1
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: shume on Tuesday 10 August 21 11:39 BST (UK)
A ticket of Leave was granted to convicts for good behaviour and was like a licence or bail and they were free to work within a designated area ( ? Deniliquin) and start a new life in Aus before the end of their sentence. My understanding of a conditional pardon was they could live anywhere in Aus but not return home. Great majority of convicts would not have the financial means to travel overseas (although some did return home)
Ancestry has dates from 1830-5 for him on the Phoenix Hulk ( a prison hulk in Port Jackson)
shume    australia
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: majm on Tuesday 10 August 21 11:50 BST (UK)
Thanks. I had seen that and it gives a good description of his tattoos that I hadn't found before. As a "missing friends" article, does that mean he's been in Australia up to 1879? Or could it mean he's left and come back - the ticket to leave passport feels like a definite intention to leave the country...

It is NOT a ticket to leave passport.  It IS a ticket of leave passport.  He has permission to move between two districts within the one colony  while he continues to serve out his sentence.  So he is not in a gaol, and he is assigned to a master who may have more than one place where he wants your chap to work, or he may be lent to another master to do seasonal work.... he is a trusted person,  abit like parole.

Oops,  I will delete some of my words.   I did not get red warning,  Sorry Shume for duplicating.   ..... I am on e reader.... my fault.   :-[  :-[  :-[


JM
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Wellwood on Tuesday 10 August 21 12:38 BST (UK)
Ah, I see. That makes sense - this is my first family member who has ended up outside of Scotland or Ireland so I'm learning the terminology. Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 10 August 21 15:01 BST (UK)
Wellwood’s ticket of leave passport (April 1847) allowed him “ to proceed to any part of the colony in the service of Mr. J J Galloway surveyor for 12 months.”

Surveyor, John Galloway biog here -
https://www.hawkesbury.org/people/galloway-john-james.html
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Wellwood on Tuesday 10 August 21 15:20 BST (UK)
I hadn't been able to find that much detail except his ticket of leave passport was given on the recommendation of "Mr Labato".

Up to that point he wasn't a particularly well-behaved prisoner and committed several crimes during his time as a convict:
https://www.freesettlerorfelon.com/searchaction.php?page=1&surname=wellwood&ship=&firstname=william
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 10 August 21 15:32 BST (UK)
I noticed he was a “carter” when first sentenced in Scotland. The man who died in Deniliquin was also a carrier - another term for a carter.
His NSW marriage or death records may give you more info.
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: majm on Wednesday 11 August 21 00:22 BST (UK)
NSW electoral roll 1870 THE MURRAY (this included the districts of Deniliquin, Jerilderie, Moama, Moulamein and Tocumwal)

William WELLWOOD, Freehold,  Deniliquin. 

NSW ER 1878 THE MURRAY,  -
the surname WELLWOOD does NOT appear on the ER for THE MURRAY in any of those districts.

NSW State Archives: https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/ADLIB_RNSW112571398
William Wellwood Date of death 7 August 1877, Granted on 18 March 1878


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/225826269   NSW Government Gazette 6 Nov 1877, he was late of Deniliquin, and Probate was granted to his widow, Mary.

supporting Neale's excellent post :
Letters of Administration for previously mention death in Deniliquin.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/225826269?searchTerm=%22%20william%20Wellwood%22

JM
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 11 August 21 01:15 BST (UK)
Hi JM,    can you suggest which record would give the most detailed information - his marriage in 1862 or his death in 1876?
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: majm on Wednesday 11 August 21 01:33 BST (UK)
Yes,  and sadly, scant on either is the likely option.

The 1862 marriage ought to have first hand details of his origins and his parents names, BUT most likely it won't (the clergy were in a huge dispute about just how much info to share with the secular authority that was NSW Reg General's office - some of the employees in that office were not the same denomination as the clergy records they were registering -  so a C of E clergy did not want a RC clerk in the Reg Gen's office to process and vice versa ... four decades that dispute raged ie from 1856 commencement of civil registration to mid 1890s.)
 
So I am waiting on my offline team - my ancient rellies-  to phone me with their thoughts (retired Clergy, retired archivists and retired NSW BDM senior officers)...   The 1876 d.c. does NOT make good sense to me, as the NSW State Archives has the dod as 7 August 1877, if 1877 is correct, then the d.c. 1876 is not his or ... 'vice versa'.  BUT we are ONLY looking at indexes ... so there may be typographical errors...  hence my comment about waiting ... perhaps a day or so ... these ancient rellies are in regional NSW and umm... may be concerned for current Covid lockdowns and perhaps are busy checking on each other re masks, essential supplies etc.   :)  :)   so umm perhaps a day or so :D  :D before I give a proper answer.  ;D  ;D   ...  My husband and I had driven to them all and loaded up their pantries, freezers etc, with as much as possible weeks ago, but likely those supplies are rapidly diminishing..   

JM
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: majm on Wednesday 11 August 21 02:09 BST (UK)
 ;D  ;D  SPELLING ....  ::)

William WELWOOD, signed a petition in 1865 re Deniliquin becoming a municipality ...
wording of petition at page 1015,  his name on that petition on page 1016.

Live link to those two pages: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/page/14458064
NSW Government Gazette 11 May 1865

JM
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 11 August 21 02:21 BST (UK)
That would make sense. His names appears on "Index to Deeds - Town Purchases" in 1862 for South Deniliquin.
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Neale1961 on Wednesday 11 August 21 02:45 BST (UK)
Just to complete the picture:
Mary Hogben who married William Wellwood in 1862 was a widow.
She was Mary LARKIN born about 1816 (possibly Irish) and had come to Australia as a free emigrant. She married Thomas HOGBEN in 1842. He was a convict from Kent, England with a life sentence, who had arrived on "Asia” in 1837.
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/fulldisplay?docid=INDEX2229957&context=L&vid=61SRA&lang=en_US&search_scope=Everything&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=default_tab&query=any,contains,thomas%20hogben&offset=0
Title: Re: William Wellwood - Convict arrived New Years Eve 1830 on the Burrell
Post by: Wellwood on Wednesday 11 August 21 10:37 BST (UK)
@majm thank you for your detailed response

I'm going through the links you've supplied to add the info to my records. I have a complete document going through William's life from hardship in Dunfermline, Scotland through to his arrest and sentencing at Perth court, the journey to Australia from Liverpool and now marriage and death in Deniliquin!

I'll have to try and arrange a trip to Deniliquin myself, though not for a year or two, to see the place for myself.