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Title: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Saturday 21 August 21 12:04 BST (UK)
Wilhelmina Walker and Charles Vernon Rowley marriage was registered Mar 1910 Ormskirk, Lancashire. They show up on the 1911 and 1921 Canadian census. Both die in Burnaby, B C.
Wilhelmina died in 1956 and her dob is shown as 10 Oct 1879. Her father is shown as Edward but no mother indicated. I can not find a record of her in England.
Charles died in 1964 and his dob is shown as 7 Mar 1888. I can not find a birth reg for him. He shows up in 1891 with parents Walter and Eleanor living in Southport, Lancashire. He is not with the family in 1901 but I think that he may be the Chas C Rowley(1889) living in Sedbergh, Yorkshire.
Any chance of filling in blanks?

Ed
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 21 August 21 12:23 BST (UK)
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He shows up in 1891 with parents Walter and Eleanor living in Southport, Lancashire.

What birthplace does he have?

There's a baptism in Denbighshire 30 Sep 1888 of a Charles Vernon Rowley parents Walter Thomas Rowley and Eleanor.
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: heywood on Saturday 21 August 21 12:27 BST (UK)
There is this family in 1881 3745/55/3

23 Kent Road, Birkdale
Ellen Walker widow  43 yrs Annuitant b Ireland
Kate Walker 12 yrs
Adelaid Walker   8 yrs
Williamina Walker 6 yrs
The children all born in America

In 1891 3032/36

‘Winnie’ is 16yrs .
The daughters all born Louisiana.
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Saturday 21 August 21 12:27 BST (UK)
As far as I can determine it is Southport
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 21 August 21 12:30 BST (UK)
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He shows up in 1891 with parents Walter and Eleanor living in Southport, Lancashire.

Have you found a marriage for Walter and Eleanor to find her maiden name?  Or births for the siblings shown in 1891?
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Saturday 21 August 21 12:32 BST (UK)
There is this family in 1881 3745/55/3

23 Kent Road, Birkdale
Ellen Walker widow  43 yrs Annuitant b Ireland
Kate Walker 12 yrs
Adelaid Walker   8 yrs
Williamina Walker 6 yrs
The children all born in America

In 1891 3032/36

‘Winnie’ is 16yrs .
The daughters all born Louisiana.

Canadian census show her being born England
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 21 August 21 12:32 BST (UK)
Ah the Denbighshire baptism shows abode as Ashleigh Park Street Southport :D

so maybe as they were in a different part of the country when he was born he just wasn't registered.

Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Saturday 21 August 21 12:35 BST (UK)
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He shows up in 1891 with parents Walter and Eleanor living in Southport, Lancashire.

Have you found a marriage for Walter and Eleanor to find her maiden name?  Or births for the siblings shown in 1891?

Mother's name Faulkner. Parents married 1870 Salford. All other children birth reistered
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Saturday 21 August 21 12:37 BST (UK)
Ah the Denbighshire baptism shows abode as Ashleigh Park Street Southport :D

so maybe as they were in a different part of the country when he was born he just wasn't registered.

Baptised in Wales?
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: Gibel on Saturday 21 August 21 12:41 BST (UK)
Charles was baptised  on 30 September at Colwyn Bay Parish Church. The address is Ashleigh Part St Southport parents Walter Thomas and Eleanor Rowley image on Ancestry

I would agree that he is in the Sedbergh area at School in 1900

He married at St Paul C of E Church in Southport in 1910. That was the local parish church to Part St. It no longer exists. Marriages on www.lan-opc.org.uk stop at 1909.
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: Gibel on Saturday 21 August 21 12:59 BST (UK)
Walter Thomas Rowley died in Southport 19November 1924 address 20 Oxford Rd Birkdale Southport. He left £6545 7s 3d. His executors were solicitors.

His wife Eleanor died in 1905 at 27 Cambridge Rd Southport. Walter was granted administration of her estate of £290 19s.

1911 Walter is a visitor to a Widow Ann Rowley living in Shotton Flintshire. She is presumably some relation.
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Saturday 21 August 21 13:10 BST (UK)
Thanks Gibel. Looks as if he could have been born either England or Wales

Ed
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: heywood on Saturday 21 August 21 16:00 BST (UK)
As far as I can determine it is Southport

The US Wilhelmina was in the right area but I can’t see her or her sisters after 1901.

Do the witness names help on the marriage certificate? What is the father’s name and occupation?

Another for you to peruse.
1871 3541 /50/15
Newark, Nottinghamshire
Edward and Euphemia Walker and several children.

1871 December quarter birth of Wilhelmina Walker mother - Robison

1873 death of Euphemia Walker , 38 yrs

1881 3375 /33/17
Minnie Walker 9 yrs is a boarder in Newark.
(2 likely siblings with her - records show mmn Robison)

1891 3154/124
Wilhelmina Walker 19 yrs Newark is a servant in Barton upon Irwell, Lancs

Possibly in 1901 3004/118/2
Leicester
Wilhelmina Walker 26 yrs Hospital Nurse b Newark
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Saturday 21 August 21 17:32 BST (UK)
Thanks Heywood.
At present I do not have marriage cert but expect I will need it. I am not too confidant of death cert info provided by Charles. The dob info on census varies wideley.

Ed
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: Gibel on Saturday 21 August 21 20:54 BST (UK)
The brother Gerald died October 1918 in France or Belgium, home address 20 Oxford Road. He is remembered on Southport’s War Memorial. Gerald was born in Southport in 1894.

Walter Thomas Rowley and Eleanor Faulkner married 1870 at St Paul Kensal.

Dora’s husband was also a WW1 war death.
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Saturday 21 August 21 22:33 BST (UK)
Thanks. Have ordered marriage cert

Ed
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: heywood on Sunday 22 August 21 00:07 BST (UK)
I hope the marriage certificate gives enough information for you to find Wilhelmina   :)
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Thursday 16 September 21 22:50 BST (UK)
Marriage cert 7 Mar 1910 St Paul Southport

Charles Vernon Rowley, 22, Batchelor, Clerk, 20 Oxford Road Birkdale, Walter Thomas Rowley, Cotton Spinner
Wilhelmina Walker, 30, spinster, 41 Talbot Street Southport, Edward William Walker(deceased), Draper
Witnesses - Walter J Rowley,Andrew(?) Rowley
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: heywood on Friday 17 September 21 06:07 BST (UK)
As far as I can determine it is Southport

Another for you to peruse.
1871 3541 /50/15
Newark, Nottinghamshire
Edward and Euphemia Walker and several children.

1871 December quarter birth of Wilhelmina Walker mother - Robison

1873 death of Euphemia Walker , 38 yrs

1881 3375 /33/17
Minnie Walker 9 yrs is a boarder in Newark.
(2 likely siblings with her - records show mmn Robison)

1891 3154/124
Wilhelmina Walker 19 yrs Newark is a servant in Barton upon Irwell, Lancs

Possibly in 1901 3004/118/2
Leicester
Wilhelmina Walker 26 yrs Hospital Nurse b Newark

This Edward, above, in 1871 is a ‘Travelling Draper’.
In 1881, the children are not with their father and one child, Margaret,  is in an orphanage.

There is a death, Edward Walker, 43 yrs, Newark in 1876.
Newspaper snippet, 12th May 1876, Nottinghamshire Guardian, re death of Edward Walker, Draper.
Title: Re: Walker and Rowley
Post by: EdCan on Friday 17 September 21 17:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Heywood. Appreciated

Ed