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John Morris married Anne Davies at Holy Trinity Church, Stratford Warwickshire 24th June 1823.
They ahd a daughter, Anne Morris at Hobart Town, Tasmania 27th January 1825 (Baptised 10th March 1825). Trying to find how and when they came to Tasmania?
Can sks please help.
Kind regards
clancam37
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Hi Clancam
I can't see any arrival in Australia, but in the period 1824-1828 there are a few shipping records for a seaman named John Morris going from Tasmania to other Australian ports.
What other information do your have??. Year of birth for John?. Did they stay in Australia? Other children born?
It seems John was a widower on that marriage in 1823, so do you have his first marriage?
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A possibility:
On 4 Feb 1824 the Aguilar arrives from England with a Mr (https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/1492895) and a Mrs (https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/1492896) Morris on board.
Update: with a child?: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1090064?searchTerm=Aguilar
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Well done TreeSpirit. :) That looks like a good fit.
I missed then searching with "John Morris". ::)
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Hi Neale1961,
Thanks fro your reply. Unfortunately I have no information.
They did remain in Tasmania, still looking for other children.
Kind regards
clancam37
Hi Clancam
I can't see any arrival in Australia, but in the period 1824-1828 there are a few shipping records for a seaman named John Morris going from Tasmania to other Australian ports.
What other information do your have??. Year of birth for John?. Did they stay in Australia? Other children born?
It seems John was a widower on that marriage in 1823, so do you have his first marriage?
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Where do you see them, in Tasmania, after 1825?
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A possibility:
On 4 Feb 1824 the Aguilar arrives from England with a Mr (https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/1492895) and a Mrs (https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/1492896) Morris on board.
Update: with a child?: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1090064?searchTerm=Aguilar
John Shorten MORRIS, arrived per Aguilar from England with goods and cash of over £660 value, applied for a grant of land of 500 acres (from Tas archives, Colonial Secretary's Office, General Correspondence, CSO1/167, film Z1791)
Possible birth - John Shorten MORRIS, 1780 Witney, Oxfordshire to Mary Thompson SHORTER and Robert MORRIS (from an Ancestry tree)
Martha Jane born 20 Nov 1821, baptised 9 Dec 1821 St Mary, Newington, Surrey; parents Ann and John Shorter MORRIS (Gent), Chester st, Lambeth (Ancestry, London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P92/MRY/026)
Possible death? - Martha MORRIS 4y 1824 Hobart https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD34-1-1p036j2kS
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John Shorten MORRIS, arrived per Aguilar from England with goods and cash of over £660 value, applied for a grant of land of 500 acres (from Tas archives, Colonial Secretary's Office, General Correspondence, CSO1/167, film Z1791)
I always forget abt those Col Sec papers :-[
Here is the link to the actual documents: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVT-WQKB?i=435
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Society of Australian Genealogists
(found by googling)
MORRIS - SPARROW
Description:
Handwritten correspondence 1822-26 to John Shorter Morris being 2 letters to him while still in London and others to him in Van Diemens Land from various Sparrow family members in England including a set of 4 letters dated June 1826 from nieces & nephew at China Cottage.
Also transcriptions of several register entries 1777-1826 on scraps of paper; a small family tree - 3 generations from Robert Morris and Mary Thompson.
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https://books.google.com.au › books
1808 · Industrial arts
Specification of the Patent granted to JOHN SHORTER MORRIS , of Pancras - place , in the County of Middlesex , Gentleman ; for a Machine for Mangling
Trish :)
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^ very interesting finds Trish!
1854 marriage of Ann Shorter Morris (aged 29y) to William Pascoe Lucas
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-13p211j2k
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Some more bits about Morris and his mangle.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/8058be11-de36-4371-aaab-e258f4cf44fc
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/8af8e586-46ca-49c7-98bb-371ae3f0eab3
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/22cd4648-644d-47f5-9c7a-f306999b39c4
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Born 14 June 1823, Baptised June 20, St Mary, Newington, Mary Shorter MORRIS to Ann and John (engineer), Bennetts Buildings, Lambeth
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John Morris married Anne Davies at Holy Trinity Church, Stratford Warwickshire 24th June 1823.
clancam37
I don’t think that marriage is correct.
I think this is the one you need to look at
John Morris marriage to Ann Smith, 16 Oct 1815, Newington St. Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP7S-Y7PN
Then the children are:
1/ Ann Emmeline Morris born 23 Sept 1816
Christened 10 June 1821 Newington St. Mary
Father – gunlock maker; Address- Union St Lambeth
2/ Elizabeth Hannah Morris born 22 July 1819
Christened 10 June 1821 Newington St. Mary
Father – gunlock maker; Address- Union St Lambeth
3/ Martha Jane Shorter Morris born 20 Nov 1821
Christened 9 Dec 1821 Newington St. Mary
Father - Engineer; Address- Market St Lambeth
4/ Mary Shorter Morris born 14 June 1823
Christened 20 July 1823 Newington St. Mary
Father - Engineer; Address- Bennetts Buildings Lambeth
5/ Anne Shorter Morris born 1825 Tasmania
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HI Trish,
Thanks for your assistance.
Kind regards
clancam37^ very interesting finds Trish!
1854 marriage of Ann Shorter Morris (aged 29y) to William Pascoe Lucas
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-13p211j2k
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Hullo Matthew,
Many thanks for your help.
Regards
clancam37Born 14 June 1823, Baptised June 20, St Mary, Newington, Mary Shorter MORRIS to Ann and John (engineer), Bennetts Buildings, Lambeth
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Hullo again Neale,
This is fantastic information, thanks for your assistance.
Regards
clancam37
John Morris married Anne Davies at Holy Trinity Church, Stratford Warwickshire 24th June 1823.
clancam37
I don’t think that marriage is correct.
I think this is the one you need to look at
John Morris marriage to Ann Smith, 16 Oct 1815, Newington St. Mary
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP7S-Y7PN
Then the children are:
1/ Ann Emmeline Morris born 23 Sept 1816
Christened 10 June 1821 Newington St. Mary
Father – gunlock maker; Address- Union St Lambeth
2/ Elizabeth Hannah Morris born 22 July 1819
Christened 10 June 1821 Newington St. Mary
Father – gunlock maker; Address- Union St Lambeth
3/ Martha Jane Shorter Morris born 20 Nov 1821
Christened 9 Dec 1821 Newington St. Mary
Father - Engineer; Address- Market St Lambeth
4/ Mary Shorter Morris born 14 June 1823
Christened 20 July 1823 Newington St. Mary
Father - Engineer; Address- Bennetts Buildings Lambeth
5/ Anne Shorter Morris born 1825 Tasmania
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Sparrow connection;
Marriage;
6 February 1803
St Bride's Church Fleet Street, London
Frederick SPARROW to Ann MORRIS
Robert MORRIS married Mary Thompson SHORTER 13 April 1776 Chaddleworth, Berkshire
(F/S also has this as 30 March 1776 Hampshire, England)
Maybe Banns and then Marriage.
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Hi Trish,
Appreciate the information you have sent.
Your googling was much more productive than mine.
Many thanks for your help.
clancam37
Sparrow connection;
Marriage;
6 February 1803
St Bride's Church Fleet Street, London
Frederick SPARROW to Ann MORRIS
Robert MORRIS married Mary Thompson SHORTER 13 April 1776 Chaddleworth, Berkshire
(F/S also has this as 30 March 1776 Hampshire, England)
Maybe Banns and then Marriage.
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Your welcome :)
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I'm feeling a bit left out here .... :'(
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I'm feeling a bit left out here .... :'(
;D
They certainly are sleuthing out some quality info. It's what RChat is all about.
JM
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Everyone who contributed got a personal thank you from the OP .... but my contributions seem to have gone unnoticed esp the arrival in Australia that the OP had specifically asked for!
(at least Neale1961 appreciated it)
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Hi TreeSpirit,
My apologies. The information received was fantastic yet overwhelming --- I thought I had thanked everyone.
Still sorting through the information.
Rootschat Forum is terrific.
Again my thanks TreeSpirit.
clancam37
I'm feeling a bit left out here .... :'(
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Hi majm,
I do apologise -- thought I had thanked all the brilliant people who contributed.
I had so little to work with and now an abundance of material to proceed.
Rootschat is fantastic --- You majm have helped me in the past with other queries.
Kind regards
clancam37
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I'm feeling a bit left out here .... :'(
;D
They certainly are sleuthing out some quality info. It's what RChat is all about.
JM
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Hi wivenhoe
Many thanks for your input as well.
Kind regards
clancam37
Where do you see them, in Tasmania, after 1825?