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Given the gaps in the 1851 census this is possibly a vain hope, but perhaps someone could find him.
Robert Brock was born in Stainforth near Doncaster c.1814. I can first pick him up in 1861 when he is master of a Humber keel called "Carrier" moored in the Old Harbour in Hull. Ten years later he is on a keel in the Stainforth canal with his wife Mary (born in Beverley). It would be very useful to find him earlier.
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I think this might be his baptism?
Robert Brock
Baptism 29 Aug 1813
Hatfield Near Doncaster, Yorkshire
Father's Name: George Brock
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Colin
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I cannot find earlier than the 1861 census you mention, which was listed under "England & Wales Shipping on freecen.
Colin
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Thanks, Colin.
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There's a Thomas Brock (age 40) with wife Margaret A Brock (age 38, Barton, Lincs) in the 1851 census. Wrong first name, I know, but he's a "ship owner" from Stainforth. Living in Hull. :-\
Or is this fellow a brother of Robert?
Registration District Hull
Page Number 47
Piece/Folio 2362 / 54
Registration Number HO107
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That's an interesting idea, I'll follow it up. In 1861 Robert has as his mate a George Thomas Brock, not described as his son, so there could very well be a family relationship. Life on the keels certainly was a family business.
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Thank you Hillhurst, George is Robert's brother :)
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Best fit I could find:
GRO Births:
BROCK, GEORGE THOMAS mmn RICHARDSON
1841 D Quarter in KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 22 Page 393
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Marriage:Image is on FMpast
Mary RICHARDSON and Robert BROCK (a mariner)-Oct. 30 1839 Kingston-upon-Hull
Maureen
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Is George Thos Brock on the 1861 census not his son ?
Baptism for George Thomas Brock
10 November 1841
Holy Trinity Kingston Upon Hull York
Father Robert Brock
Mother Mary
Gro.gov
George Thomas Brock
1841 Kingston Upon Hull
Mothers maiden name Richardson
Marriage for George Thomas Brock age 21 (mariner ) father Robert Brock (mariner )
Spouse Sarah Ann Moxen 21 father Joseph Moxen ( mariner )
1 January 1863 Parish of Holy Trinity Kingston Upon Hull
Still not seeing them on the 1851 census
Rosie
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Both posting at the same time Maureen ;)
Rosie
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Both posting at the same time Maureen ;)
Rosie
:) :)
Thanks,Rosie! At least your eyes and mine are seeing the same info.
Maureen
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The marriage for Robert Brock Holy Trinity Kingston Upon Hull gives his address as
41 High Street
30 October 1839
Rosie
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Both posting at the same time Maureen ;)
Rosie
:) :)
Thanks,Rosie! At least your eyes and mine are seeing the same info.
Maureen
;D ;D
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In case the OP isn't aware, below is an 1861 newspaper report relating to Robert Brock. Sorry, I don't have any newspaper access subs, so I can only see the brief blurb.
Hull Advertiser and Exchange Gazette
Saturday 03 August 1861 - page 9
"Accident.—The captain of keel, named Robert Brock, whilst going on board his vessel, accidentally fell overboard about midnight on Monday. He was immediately got out by ..."
And an earlier report from 1840. The OCR text is garbled, as usual.
Hull Packet
Friday 21 August 1840 - page 5,6
"...named Rickard and Matthew XTslirin. were fatly committed toe trial, on charge stealing tops, from stoop belonging Mr. Robert Brock, who had the boys, boat lying near the sloop, with the rope in their possession".
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Thank you so much, all of you, for all this info. You might like to know how the story ends, with this piece from my blog:
'Our register records that Robert Brock, aged 81, died on 7 January 1895. But a note adds: "Presumably; body having been found in the Queen's Dock". Robert's death certificate and a letter tell us more of the sad story. 7 January was the date he went missing from the Charterhouse. Presumably there was a search; if there was, it was unsuccessful. On 26 January, and again on 30 January, it seems that the Master assumed he was dead and was writing to the the council's Charterhouse Applicants Committee asking them to fill Brock's vacant room. A letter survives from the Town Clerk in reply on 31 January saying that they were deferring a decision "in the hope that some news may be heard of Brock". His body was not found for more than two months; it was recovered from the dock on 15 March. There was an inquest, and the verdict was that he had drowned.'
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A very sad ending :'(
Rosie