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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: ShootingStar on Sunday 26 September 21 12:25 BST (UK)
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Hi, hopefully it’s ok to post this here but I was adopted and recently found out my biological mother died in 2013. However, while her immediate family (her other children and older sister, at least) are still living in the local area, as she had been until she died, Ancestry indicates she is buried around 200 miles away! The record gives a grave number and cemetery section, but even after:
A) a few emails and phone calls to the council I believe she is buried in (who told me she wasn’t in either cemetery they held records for, and had no cemeteries with the section number I gave them)
B) looking through several grave location sites
C) I’m waiting for a reply from my local record office, which might help shed light on this…
I’ve had no luck finding her. Someone from the council where she’s allegedly buried said something about some people wishing to be buried with another person.
Is it possible she was buried with a relative then not added to the memorial? Or even that she was cremated and scattered there, but I’m not sure why her record would say she was buried in that case?
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Do you have the death registration/certificate for her?
Which record on ancestry are you looking at? If it appears on someone else's family tree then it could be an error.
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Welcome to RootsChat ShootingStar
Have you looked for a death intimation in the newspapers local to the area she died ?
It may tell you the funeral arrangements.
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Ancestry indicates she is buried around 200 miles away! The record gives a grave number and cemetery section
What sort of record are you finding? is it an actual record or something else like link to Find-A-Grave entry?
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Thanks for your reply. I have ordered her death certificate, might be a little while before I get it but after I ordered it I started thinking it wouldn’t really help. I don’t think the record was attached to a tree, it comes from England and Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1900 - 2016.
The way I found that was long winded - I knew my birth name and had heard her surname, but not seen it written down, so I looked for myself first, then Googled her name and found an online news article with a coroner’s verdict on the cause of her death - she drowned in the river, but they ruled that she didn’t mean to take her own life. Then I looked for her death on Ancestry. The salient details match up.
I’ve been trying to look up local newspaper archives from that time but just finding it really difficult to find anything. I might have to email the paper and ask if they have anything to do with it archived.
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If it's England the death certificate will not give a place of burial. Not sure about Scottish certificates for 2013.
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I thought that. Is it also possible she or family just didn’t want me to find her after she died? :(
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Whereabouts did she die in England, Wales or Scotland? As she is deceased can you give us her name and birth details as without a name & location we can only give general information
Did she leave a will? https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
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She was born June 1959, died in Great Yarmouth, buried in Winchester, Hampshire. Her name was Julia Ann Snowling, I don’t think she left a will from what I could find. Thank you for your replies, also.
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Wrong reply
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The Julia Snowling who drowned was 57. Death registered Sept Qtr 2013 Norfolk
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/great-yarmouth-mother-did-not-mean-to-kill-herself-inquest-599494
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Is 57 a typo? She was 53, would have been 62 now if she was still alive. But thank you very much for looking, I didn’t know when her death was actually registered.
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She was born June qtr 1959 so was 54 when she died. Her death reg shows her birthyear as 1959
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She died in January, but otherwise yes, she would have been 54 that year. I’m going to be tentatively reaching out to biological family later through a mediator (not because of this, but if I did get positive responses I could ask later), but would still like to find some answers to various questions in case of no response etc. I’m not necessarily going to see the grave, but it would be nice to know where it is, if indeed there is one…
I do appreciate all the replies :)
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The entry on Ancestry for Julia that says Winchester makes no sense as underneath it states
Source Citation
Great Yarmouth; Great Yarmouth, England; Great Yarmouth Burial Registers
If you haven’t tried Great Yarmouth area cemeteries I’d try there.
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That’s what I thought, I mean why would she be that far away? I emailed a local records office on Friday, anyway, they should respond soon ish.
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Hi ShootingStar, I think Ancestry have made an error on the England and Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1900 - 2016. I think Julia was buried at Magdalen Cemetery, Gorleston, Norfolk.
I was curious to see if Julia may have been buried with a family member in Winchester, so I searched on Ancestry for anyone with the surname Snowling buried in Winchester. I was surprised to find several people with that surname who died in Great Yarmouth were noted as buried in Winchester. Most of them were "No image, text only collection", but one entry had an original image of the register, everyone on the register (1995-2011) died in Great Yarmouth/Gorleston or nearby.
The original image is for Magdalen Cemetery, GORLESTON, NORFOLK, but the transcription is Winchester. There is also a Magdalen Cemetery in WINCHESTER. I think there has been some mix up on the Ancestry transcription.
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Jool, that is fantastic, thanks from the bottom of my heart! No wonder I wasn’t getting anywhere with Winchester council! Must say that is a really odd error for them to make, though lol. I will take a look there soon ;D
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Glad to have been of help. To be honest I didn't really expect to find anything of use when I searched Snowling buried in Winchester, I just wanted to satisfy my curiosity and rule it out.
I will contact Ancestry to report the error and hopefully they will correct the transcription.