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Title: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Friday 01 October 21 14:58 BST (UK)
I have a relative Jane Rogers who died  21 Dec 1926 at 123 Cresent Rd Crumpsall, Manchester. She was living at The Beeches, Holly Vale, Mellor, Marple at the time according to her death certificate. I cant work out why she would be that far away from her home? It wasn't classed as a Mental Institution till the 1930s? I also cant find her burial or Crem records? Please can anyone help?
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 01 October 21 15:16 BST (UK)
Have you seen this

https://www.manchester.gov.uk/directory_record/212444/crumpsall_workhouse/category/1369/hospital
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Friday 01 October 21 21:10 BST (UK)
Yes thank you

I have arranged to go to Central library on the 12 Oct, wonder if they can help me burial or cremation records of Jane and Alfred her husband?
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Post by: heywood on Friday 01 October 21 21:20 BST (UK)
Where /when did Alfred die?
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Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Friday 01 October 21 23:18 BST (UK)
Hello, It has to be before 1939 as his daughters are registered at the address, cant find him anywhere?
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Friday 01 October 21 23:27 BST (UK)
Where /when did Alfred die?

Alfred Rogers 10 March 1863 in Bombay, India. Married Jane in 1887 Pontefract, then joined Manchester Police in 1889 till 1915
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: heywood on Friday 01 October 21 23:41 BST (UK)
What was the Marple address? Was it her home or an institution?
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: heywood on Friday 01 October 21 23:47 BST (UK)
If that was their home, this could be his death:

Alfred Rogers, 70 yrs
December quarter 1932 Hayfield, Derbyshire
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Friday 01 October 21 23:48 BST (UK)
The Beeches, Holly Vale, Marple
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Friday 01 October 21 23:50 BST (UK)
If that was their home, this could be his death:

Alfred Rogers, 70 yrs
December quarter 1932 Hayfield, Derbyshire

This could well be a possibility, im just checking now x
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Friday 01 October 21 23:54 BST (UK)
No just checked probate :(
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: heywood on Friday 01 October 21 23:58 BST (UK)
I can’t see a probate  :-\
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 02 October 21 00:11 BST (UK)
There are 2 Alfred Rogers deaths in Derbyshire in 1932.
The one in Hayfield and the other in Derby.
There is a probate record for Alfred Rogers of Derby but I don’t see another.
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Saturday 02 October 21 00:16 BST (UK)
I cant find it now but I found an Alfred Rogers probate died oct 1932 in Derby
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Saturday 02 October 21 00:16 BST (UK)
There are 2 Alfred Rogers deaths in Derbyshire in 1932.
The one in Hayfield and the other in Derby.
There is a probate record for Alfred Rogers of Derby but I don’t see another.

I cant find the one in Hayfield? :(
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 02 October 21 00:20 BST (UK)
Do you mean the death?

If you are searching Free BMD, they are both there under Derbyshire.
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Saturday 02 October 21 00:24 BST (UK)
Thank you, that well could be him, Certificate ordered. Thank you so much, fingers crossed x
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Post by: heywood on Saturday 02 October 21 00:26 BST (UK)
Good luck  :)
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Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Saturday 02 October 21 00:28 BST (UK)
Good luck  :)

I shall keep you posted, thank you once again x
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: Lisa_Dee1969 on Sunday 10 October 21 18:13 BST (UK)
Thank you Heywood, I now have the correct certificate he died on the 25th November 1932  :)
Title: Re: Crumpsall workhouse/ Hospital/ Institution?
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 October 21 18:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for the update. I am glad it helped. :)