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Title: HELP! REID/LOGUE Family from Listymore/Strabane Area around 1910
Post by: Rhodsey68 on Saturday 09 October 21 23:39 BST (UK)
Hi, I am after information on my 2nd great grandfather, he is missing from my great grandfathers birth certificate his mother was Elizabeth Reid who them married a William Logue! Any info or help would be greatly appreciated or info on how to find this. Obviously this is. Ow a dead end in my tree, which i am afraid i may never solve! :-[ Thanks in advance
Title: Re: HELP! REID/LOGUE Family from Listymore/Strabane Area around 1910
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 10 October 21 11:22 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

You haven't given us the name or date of birth of your gt grandfather.

Is this the marriage of your Elizabeth Reid to William Logue in 1915? Her father William Reid, a labourer and she was living at Ergenagh (sic).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09811/5561965.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/strabane-lower/ardstraw-strabane-lower-portion/listymore/erganagh/

If the marriage is correct, then this is her in the 1911 census.
House 12 in Erganagh (Listymore, Tyrone).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Listymore/Erganagh/852326/

There's a birth of a John Reid (mother Elizabeth) in Castlederg workhouse in 1912.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01482/1603099.pdf


KG

Title: Re: HELP! REID/LOGUE Family from Listymore/Strabane Area around 1910
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 10 October 21 14:44 BST (UK)
With an illegitimate birth, the fatherís name only appears on the certificate if he was present at the birth registration and confirmed paternity. (Otherwise a mother could name anyone with obvious difficulties if the information was not accurate). Where the parents are married, thereís a presumption of legitimacy and so they donít both need to be there at the registration. Indeed neither needs to be there!

You could check with the local church to see if your ancestor was baptised. The fatherís name might be listed there.
Title: Re: HELP! REID/LOGUE Family from Listymore/Strabane Area around 1910
Post by: Rhodsey68 on Sunday 10 October 21 14:58 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

You haven't given us the name or date of birth of your gt grandfather.

Is this the marriage of your Elizabeth Reid to William Logue in 1915? Her father William Reid, a labourer and she was living at Ergenagh (sic).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09811/5561965.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/strabane-lower/ardstraw-strabane-lower-portion/listymore/erganagh/

If the marriage is correct, then this is her in the 1911 census.
House 12 in Erganagh (Listymore, Tyrone).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Listymore/Erganagh/852326/

There's a birth of a John Reid (mother Elizabeth) in Castlederg workhouse in 1912.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01482/1603099.pdf


KG


Hi KG thanks for the info, that is all correct, i have found all that info out, i didn't know about the workhouse though.

Thanks for the reply
Title: Re: HELP! REID/LOGUE Family from Listymore/Strabane Area around 1910
Post by: Rhodsey68 on Sunday 10 October 21 15:01 BST (UK)
With an illegitimate birth, the fatherís name only appears on the certificate if he was present at the birth registration and confirmed paternity. (Otherwise a mother could name anyone with obvious difficulties if the information was not accurate). Where the parents are married, thereís a presumption of legitimacy and so they donít both need to be there at the registration. Indeed neither needs to be there!

You could check with the local church to see if your ancestor was baptised. The fatherís name might be listed there.

Hi Elwyn,

Thanks for the reply, i will see what i can find with the local church.

Cheers