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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: Questor28 on Tuesday 19 October 21 16:35 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to fill some gaps in the life of my grand father John Henry Jenkins. He was born in 1878 in Hakin, Pembrokeshire, Wales but lived most of his life in Grimsby.
As kids we were told that he ran away to sea at the age of 14 but the facts that I have come up with don't corroborate this. I have him from birth to the 1901 census living at home in Wales with his parents aged 23. I suppose he could have run away and come back :-) The next record I have is his marriage to Bessie Agnes Chase in 1920 in Grimsby. I then have the birth of his children, including my mum, up to the 1939 register and his death in 1948 (before I was born). I believe that he may have worked on trawlers or in the merchant navy as an engineer.
Does anyone know if there are records of trawler/merchant navy crews or employment records for trawler workers. I did find an uncorroborated medal record on the National Archive site but there were no details of where he served or in what capacity.
I would like to fill in that missing 19 year gap between 1901 and 1920 if anyone has any ideas where I might start.
Thanks.
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Is this your grandfather?
Birth
John Henry Jenkins
Jun 1878 Haverfordwest
mmn Thomas
Baptism
John Henry Jenkins
born 7th June 1878
baptised 21st July 1878 Hubberston
John (labourer) and Mary of Hakin
If this is your man, he is a witness at his sister's wedding on 27th February 1904 at Hubberston. The parents both died 1906, I have burials details if you don't have them.
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Hi
Thanks for that. I forgot that I had him at his sisters wedding in 1904 so I guess he was at least 27 when he left home.
I haven't got his mother's (Mary Thomas) death details so if you have them I would appreciate them.
Thanks
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The 1939 entry confirms his occupation but I doubt you will find any employment records
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Burials at Hubberston
Mary Jenkins 54 of Hakin
buried 26th October 1906
the next entry in the register, over the page is
John Jenkins 54 of Hakin
buried 12th December 1906
both entries have O. G. against them
Death certificates needed to confirm but seems to be them.
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Trawler records and crews are held in the North Lincs Archives at Grimsby Town Hall
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On the online index for the archives there is a J Jenkins aged 32 from Milford Haven sailing on the trawler Somerville from Grimsby in 1911. Described as Deck hand on one record and Bosun on a further record Ref 208/5/56/301
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You will be able to get a lot of info from the records at North East Lincs Archives, if or when they`re open to the public.
I`ve a notebook of my father`s from when he was looking for someone, where he`s listed who the trawler belonged to ( wrong grammar, but it`s late !! ) and I "think" who collected the wages . I`ll look tomorrow to see.
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Hi guys
That's great info. It has given me something to work on. Thanks for your help.
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This is an interesting story (the Milford elopement) - the Hull connection jumped out at me and on digging it's clear the girl is John's sister
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4117347/4117350/11/
And an affray involving the parents - under "A carrier and his wife" in the second column
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4117117/4117121/24/
Inquest into father's death. Another very short report notes he was known as Boscow Jenkins
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3064275/3064277/17/
JOhn snr seemed to have a few run ins with the law involving drunkenness, stray animals and horses and carts, and this one where John jnr gets a mention
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3063695/3063698/17/
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On the online index for the archives there is a J Jenkins aged 32 from Milford Haven sailing on the trawler Somerville from Grimsby in 1911. Described as Deck hand on one record and Bosun on a further record Ref 208/5/56/301
That was a great find. I have found the the skipper of the Somerville was Alfred Britton from Hull. John H Jenkins sister, Elizabeth, was married to an Alfred Britton who lived in hull. Too much of a coincidence??? looks like I have some more digging to do.
Thanks again.
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This is an interesting story (the Milford elopement) - the Hull connection jumped out at me and on digging it's clear the girl is John's sister
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4117347/4117350/11/
And an affray involving the parents - under "A carrier and his wife" in the second column
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4117117/4117121/24/
Inquest into father's death. Another very short report notes he was known as Boscow Jenkins
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3064275/3064277/17/
JOhn snr seemed to have a few run ins with the law involving drunkenness, stray animals and horses and carts, and this one where John jnr gets a mention
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3063695/3063698/17/
Another great find. The girl in the first story is definitely his sister. Not so sure about the other stories. At first site the dates don't seem to match but I will check them out properly.
Thank again.
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IN 1891 John, Mary and children including Lettice are in Hill St. the news stories I've posted were generally about John Jenkins of Hill St, so quite possibly him
Here's another story with Lettice, which notes that the family are regularly in court. Confusingly it seems a sister married a chap called John Jenkins!
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3063165/3063167/11/
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Having just re-read them all I think you are right. Great work.
Thanks
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You will be able to get a lot of info from the records at North East Lincs Archives, if or when they`re open to the public.
I`ve a notebook of my father`s from when he was looking for someone, where he`s listed who the trawler belonged to ( wrong grammar, but it`s late !! ) and I "think" who collected the wages . I`ll look tomorrow to see.
To continue ! It says Fishermens agreement with number. There are the names of the trawler and it`s number, which port it sailed from (in this case Grimsby) also with number; the name of the person who collected the wages, in and also the trawlerman`s address.
It was quite a lot of years ago when my dad did this; I think it might have been from the original, but he hasn`t written it down.