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Title: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bill Wright on Friday 22 October 21 10:32 BST (UK)
Been trying for years to decipher my Great Grandmothers maiden name. She married William Davidson in Scotland or Newcastle on Tyne and My Grandmothers  Name was Annie Davidson
Her mothers name was Margaret ??? see attached from Annie's Marriage Certificate
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Rhododendron on Friday 22 October 21 10:36 BST (UK)
Might be me, but I can't see an attachment.
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: IgorStrav on Friday 22 October 21 10:45 BST (UK)
Might be me, but I can't see an attachment.

No it's not just you  ;)

Bill can you try again?  You might need to rename the clip you tried to post before.
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: JenB on Friday 22 October 21 11:06 BST (UK)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854481.msg7226246#msg7226246

Still having problems  :-\
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bill Wright on Friday 22 October 21 11:13 BST (UK)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854481.msg7226246#msg7226246

Still having problems  :-\
How do I add the image
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bill Wright on Friday 22 October 21 11:19 BST (UK)
Can.t find info on how to add handwriting  image can anyone help
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 22 October 21 11:25 BST (UK)
What problem are you having with loading it, are you getting an error message

Here is a link to guidelines for posting images
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=130922.0
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bill Wright on Friday 22 October 21 12:03 BST (UK)
Hope this works Mothers maiden name is at bottom 

  >:( (http://)
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: IgorStrav on Friday 22 October 21 12:13 BST (UK)
Lanespring?
Lanesprey?

There does appear to be a faint dot suggesting there's an i in the last part of the name.


Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Friday 22 October 21 12:18 BST (UK)
Stretched

Malky

Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 22 October 21 12:25 BST (UK)
When and where was Annie born?
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: bearkat on Friday 22 October 21 12:39 BST (UK)
It looks like Lanespire but I'm not sure that is a surname  ???
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bill Wright on Friday 22 October 21 13:04 BST (UK)
Shuan J That is a sixty four dollar question on her Wedding Certificate she says Perth Scotland there is mention somewhere of Fife but on most of the children's Birth Certificates it is Newcastle on Tyne.
Dad said she had a scots accent I have tried using her parents as William Davidson and Margaret  also Margaret Lanesoine  Found a few William Davidsons  but no daughter Annie although that may have only been what the family called her. On the family Bible which was hers it is Annie. She married Richard Wright at Tarnagulla in 1869 saying she was 29 although from the various dates I have it would appear she was 18 and by the time she died her age had gradually gone back to what would have made her 18 in 1869. my Grandfather selected land at Glenluce Victoria and they raised 7 children including a set of twin boys so she was obviously real pioneer and a good mother. But still a mystery - only wish I had talked more to my father about the family but at that age I was nt interested in geanology now I have spent the last 35 years tracking down the family history. Anyhelp always welcome and thanks to all for your patience helping me with posting an image :D
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: arthurk on Friday 22 October 21 15:56 BST (UK)
Did Annie's parents emigrate with her? If so, do their Australian death records have any clues?

And did she have any siblings whose marriage records might include the same surname?
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: philipsearching on Friday 22 October 21 20:21 BST (UK)
(posted in error - deleted)
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: philipsearching on Friday 22 October 21 20:24 BST (UK)
Can.t find info on how to add handwriting  image can anyone help

When you make a post you should see (below the big white box for typing)

- Attachments and other options

Click on the arrow to the left (white arrow in brown circle)

This brings up the option Attach:

Click on the "Browse" button and find the file you want to attach
(NOTE - only certain types of graphic file can be posted)

When ready, click the "Post" button


Hope this helps
Philip
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Karen McDonald on Friday 22 October 21 21:09 BST (UK)
Hi all,

If I am seeing this correctly, Margaret's name was originally entered before William's by mistake and then struck through.
This version is a little larger - although still almost indecipherable - but I can't see a long letter like a "p" or a "g". (The "g" in this Margaret is very long.)

Can anyone else see more than I can?!  :)
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 23 October 21 03:09 BST (UK)
Hi Bill,
I wonder would it be too much bother for you to take another snip to post. A bit deeper across the bottom.

or, alternatively-

Can you confirm you have captured all of the name including any characters which may extend downwards..

The snip looks as if it is taken 'close' at the bottom.

Also, a question.

Are you certain that none of the children had a middle name that might help?
Sue
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: PurdeyB on Saturday 23 October 21 07:25 BST (UK)
Do other entries include the mother's full name or just her surname? There are differences in letters, which could be down to lack of space, but could it be Jane Spiers?
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 23 October 21 08:23 BST (UK)
If the name at the bottom is the same as the one crossed out then it looks like the registrar was writing Lane - no room for a longer word.
BUT I think the bottom word looks like one long word.
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bookbox on Saturday 23 October 21 09:07 BST (UK)
After Lane, it could just be spinr, for 'spinster'.

I appreciate this doesn't normally appear in such records, but there was obviously some confusion here with Margaret's name, and this might have been an attempt to clarify it.
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bill Wright on Monday 25 October 21 06:36 BST (UK)
Had a better copy but was too big This was scanned and converted to PDF to send  Hope someone can help fingers crossed(http://)
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 25 October 21 06:39 BST (UK)
Hopefully,,,
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 25 October 21 07:16 BST (UK)
Lancsosine ??  Maybe a mispelling of a foreign surname  :-\

Kay
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: bearkat on Monday 25 October 21 07:53 BST (UK)
A good scan.  Definitely no 'p'.

Could be Lanesosine/Lanesosire.

Perhaps just a misheard/spelt Lancashire  ???
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: IgorStrav on Monday 25 October 21 08:15 BST (UK)
Laneson, and the faint dot just a random mark?
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 25 October 21 08:55 BST (UK)

Perhaps just a misheard/spelt Lancashire  ???

I am starting to see Lancashire now?

Kay
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: jomcd967 on Monday 25 October 21 09:34 BST (UK)
What is father Williamís occupation on the marriage certificate?

Jo   :)
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bill Wright on Tuesday 09 November 21 10:38 GMT (UK)
i believe Farmer annie was a servant on her wedding certificate living at Burnt Creek Lanacoorie victoia its mainly about where she was actually born Newcastle on Tyne - Fyfe- Perth and to establish her actual age when she married she says 29 I believe 18 and my garndfather claimed to be 37 and was actually 49 - born 1823 Bankton (Tranent) Scotland.
My other mystery is what he did and here he was from his arrival in Australia in 1854 and his marriage in 1869 a it keeps the mind active
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: jomcd967 on Tuesday 09 November 21 20:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Bill,

Can you please list ALL the details on the marriage certificate?
It would help us to help you to know everything that it says on there.

Cheers, Jo  :)
Title: Re: Deciphering the attached name
Post by: Bill Wright on Wednesday 10 November 21 05:31 GMT (UK)
18869 Marriage Solemnized in the Distract of Tarnagulla Victoria
Married eleventh  of September 1869 at the residence of the Rev John G Pethouse
Parties- Richard Wright Bachelor Edingburgh Scotland (Actual Tranent or Bankton) Farming Man
Age 37 ( actual 46 Born 1823) Residence Edington (Victoria) Farther - John Wright Farmer
Mothers Maiden Name Margaret Craig
Annie Davidson Spinster Perth Scotland?? General Servant  Age 23 ? (Possibly 18) Residence Burnt Creek - Lanecoorie  Father William Davidson Farmer. Mothers maiden name Margaret ???
They were married according to the rites of the Primative Methodist Church  its is signed by Richard and Annie and witnessed by John Thompson and Clara Ellen Andrews, and that's about it Hope you can help