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Title: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Dumfriesdelving on Friday 05 November 21 16:10 GMT (UK)
Can anyone please decipher the witness's name? Elizabeth ......   Pi..??
Bride was Parke; in-laws Levin and Pi...   were supposed to be married but maybe bride had a sibling.
Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 05 November 21 16:12 GMT (UK)
Not quite Pike is it  :-\

Can you find a marriage for the in-laws to confirm?
Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 05 November 21 16:17 GMT (UK)
Fish  :-\

The first letter looks more like the F in Frederick than the P in Parke.  The downward stroke is crossed through

Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Dumfriesdelving on Friday 05 November 21 16:18 GMT (UK)
I only have Elizabeth  recorded as Liven in 1841 Gt Yarmouth census. Pike is worth a try though!
Thank you.
Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Dumfriesdelving on Friday 05 November 21 16:20 GMT (UK)
I even thought 'Fish'.Will have a look.
Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 05 November 21 16:25 GMT (UK)
There's a Mary Ann Elizabeth Liven baptised 1840 but parents John and Susan.

Thinking if she had belonged to Elizabeth you could look up her birth and find the maiden name.

Interesting but that could be

Mary Ann Elizabeth Leaven Dec 1840 Great Yarmouth with mothers name Parker
Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 05 November 21 16:54 GMT (UK)
Another thought, Fiske
Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Dumfriesdelving on Friday 05 November 21 17:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all suggestions.

No luck yet with John Liven snr and his wife E. Fiske/Pike/Fisher  or sister-in-law Parke.

There were 2 Mary Ann Elizabeths: one died very young , the other lived to a reasonable age, the child of Maria Goodswin, wife 2.

Must look up the Parkes for siblings

Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 05 November 21 21:16 GMT (UK)
I think it is the surname as the bride.
Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Dumfriesdelving on Saturday 06 November 21 08:44 GMT (UK)
Thank you. Very possible; haven't found Park(e) mother/siblings yet or Susan's death c 1841-2.

Do you and I share any Jardines? David Jardine+ Ann Hope b.1803 of Rigg, Graitney? They lived in Knaresborough.
Title: Re: Witness surname on 1835 marriage cert
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 06 November 21 09:25 GMT (UK)
I think it might be Pilke.

Comparing the letters in the other words, Pilke seems the most likely.