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Title: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: Black Sheep on Tuesday 09 November 21 15:09 GMT (UK)
I am trying to work out the street name for Percival baptism, 9 something street ??? ???

Hoping someone can help.
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 09 November 21 15:22 GMT (UK)
Glass Street  :-\
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 09 November 21 15:35 GMT (UK)
looks like Glass St to me as well.
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: manukarik on Tuesday 09 November 21 17:16 GMT (UK)
9 Glass Street

There's a
9 Glass Street, Farnworth, Bolton, Greater Manchester, BL4 9LA

Could that be it?
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 09 November 21 17:42 GMT (UK)
9 Glass Street

There's a
9 Glass Street, Farnworth, Bolton, Greater Manchester, BL4 9LA

Could that be it?

No. It is in Hulme.
The parents were living in Great Jackson Street when they married in 1898 so I would think it was around there.
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 09 November 21 18:15 GMT (UK)
There is a Glass St in Hulme on the 1891 census -- also 1881, but I can't see it in 1901. In 1911 it's described as Chorlton.
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 09 November 21 18:17 GMT (UK)
On FindMyPast index it is Chorlton in 1901.
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 09 November 21 18:19 GMT (UK)
Yes -- it was described as Hulme, Chorlton in 1891.
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: manukarik on Tuesday 09 November 21 18:42 GMT (UK)
Have been looking through old maps of Manchester from the mid 19th century but not found Glass Street yet.

Your eyes might be better than mine!

https://www.library.manchester.ac.uk/rylands/special-collections/exploring/guide-to-special-collections/map-collection/online-map-collection/ (https://www.library.manchester.ac.uk/rylands/special-collections/exploring/guide-to-special-collections/map-collection/online-map-collection/)
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 09 November 21 18:58 GMT (UK)
Looking at the Enumerator's route - it seems very near to Park Place.

Park Place, Chorlton cum Hardy still exists according to Google Maps - I am assuming Chorlton cum Hardy is the same place as Chorlton (no doubt I'll be corrected if wrong).
 
Hence if you look for Park Place on Google Maps - Glass St seemed to be more or less adjacent, back in the day. (That area seems to have been much altered from what it would have been, according to Street View)
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 09 November 21 19:26 GMT (UK)
Are there any other street names from the route?
I think it would be Chorlton on Medlock perhaps?
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 09 November 21 19:54 GMT (UK)
Just for interest in trying to place Glass Street. This would be Park Place, I think.

http://www.victorianpolicestations.org/great-jackson-st-park-place-town-hall-hulme.html

I canít see Glass Street on maps of Great Jackson Street area. There is a Park Street running parallel to Gt Jackson Street and some unnamed streets. Perhaps Glass Street was only a short street and not included on maps.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101103809
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 09 November 21 20:00 GMT (UK)
Heywood - it was only a short street - and there is also a Short St, Bland St, Garner St and Harris St nearby in 1891.

There does seem to be a Police Station nearby on Park Place.
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: Black Sheep on Tuesday 09 November 21 20:23 GMT (UK)
There is (was) a glass street next to Medlock Street Glass works, I think that is it ;D

Thank you everyone !
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 09 November 21 20:38 GMT (UK)
I hope this works  ::)
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18.6262943739022&lat=53.47200&lon=-2.24843&layers=117746211&right=osm

On a modern map Short Street is Shortcroft Street - River Street still there.

I should have perhaps shortened the link but I donít want to jinx it. It has taken a lot of searching to get here   ;)
Title: Re: Baptism Address in Hulme Manchester
Post by: Black Sheep on Tuesday 09 November 21 20:51 GMT (UK)
Heywood that is a fantastic map you sent me, in your map I can see it is off short street re-named shortcroft street now. It is very close the church for the baptism so it looks all good. I really could not read the writing at all thanks to rosie for being able to read the handwriting.